MorphOS 2.0 Released

[bloodline]

motorollin wrote:

I *had* a PegII, but I realised that I had spent a lot of money on it only to find I did nothing with it that I couldn't already to with my A4000, so I sold it. The EFIKA would be a nice, (relatively) cheap way to tinker with MOS so would fill both needs. Also, I have always wanted to build a custom case with a small motherboard, so I might as well make it an Amiga-like machine :-)

Ahh, now this I understand... I did much the same... though I bought a 800Mhz VIA Mini-ITX and run AROS on it...

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TheMagicM wrote:
ffastback has a valid point.

Now here I have to object, ffastback does not have a valid point. He has not formed a valid argument.

He is ignoring the point I was trying to make, and simply taking personal objection to my question.

If bloodline is throwing MOS under the bus yet he's an AROS developer...sounds like a little bit of jealousy methinks.

Not at all. MOS has better developed GFX and audio drivers. MOS is prettier than AROS and can run OS legal 68K apps (which AROS would also be able to do on a Big Endian CPU). I also prefer the Two level structure of MOS, with the Quark micro-kernel under the AmigaOS compatible environment on top (much like AROS hosted).

AROS has benefited greatly from a close relationship with MOS.

I agree also w/his point.. spending $279 for MOS+ EFIKA, what will the equivalent get me for AROS?  

Look at it the other way around... How much would you have to spend to get a functionally equivalent (or at least as close as possible) AROS based system?

Whatever bloodline's points are against MOS, insert AROS into those sentences/questions and see what answers you come up with.

Since my only negative criticism of MOS is with respect to the high price (with respect to usefulness), not technical criticisms... I would like to think the answers you come up with would reflect my own.

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ffastback wrote:

motorollin wrote:

No, he's just trying to understand the appeal and purpose of the machine, which is fair enough. Better that than consider it pointless and keep that opinion to oneself rather than explore it and possibly learn something.

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moto

I'm sorry moto but I must respectfully disagree.  He throws around labels like "apologists" and "zealots" way too easily, which is insulting.    

Do you consider yourself either of these types of people?

He is unaccepting that any OS can be about a hobby.  

Not at all, I run many many Operating Systems... It is to some degree a hobby.

Yet ironically he has AROS as a part of his sig and bought a machine to run it.

Not ironic at all. I bought a very cheap tiny board because I wanted to build a small form factor machine... which I could then use to play with various Operating Systems of my choice... there are plenty of Hobby operating system to download and run on it.

My personal favorite, for various reasons, happens to be AROS.

He demeans the efforts of the creator of Skyos saying it "is nothing".  Yet for all we know that developer maybe simply gets a kick out of the mental exercise involved.  

SkyOS only costs €29, but I wouldn't find it either interesting or useful anymore... I used to play with it when it was free.

Maybe if he were to calm down on the demeaning labels I could take him more seriously.  

Then feel free to use whichever labels you wish.

But the way he has taken the conversation in my view, it would be the same as if I were to start off a conversation with him by saying, hey bloodline why do you have a $25 haircut with that sprig of hair in front of your face?  

Actually, I didn't charge myself anything or the time taken to run the clippers around the back and sides of my head... I'm clearly missing a trick here.

-Edit- The sprig, as cool as it is, was actually my hair falling in front of my face during the image capture... a few milliseconds later the rest of my fringe followed suit.

The MacOSX haircutting company offers a buzzcut that you won't have to get redone for months and won't ever block your vision for only $5!  Now if he answers "well, first I like it, second the haircutter I use is someone I like supporting they are a local shop and MacOSX haircutting is a big chain, etc, etc, etc.  

Not really a good metaphor... but made me laugh.

Now if I want to know more should I a)stay very civil while sincerely seeking to learn more or b) start throwing around labels and take on an air of superiority?  

My obsessive nature will lead me to be horribly pedantic, but I stick by my choice of words. I have tried to express my points clearly and without ambiguity.