Re: Bill Gates: How a Geek Changed the World

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steve30 wrote:
Bugger. I forgot this was on. I always forget to watch stuff on the BBC.

Don't suppose anyone recorded it and can send me a copy?

iPlayer?

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steve30 wrote:
Bugger. I forgot this was on. I always forget to watch stuff on the BBC.

Don't suppose anyone recorded it and can send me a copy?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00c6sdc.shtml?src=ip_mp

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steve30 wrote:
Whats iPlayer got to do with anything?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00c6sdc.shtml?src=ip_mp

If you click this link you can watch the show, on the BBC iPlayer site...

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steve30 wrote:
Oh.

Not that I can actually watch it because it says I must enable JavaScript.

?!?! What on earth are you using?

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steve30 wrote:
What do you mean by what am I using? If you are refering to my web browsing facilities I am using Opera 9 on a PC with an internet connection which won't be very fast until next month.

As long as your connection is at least 1meg, you won't have a problem...

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steve30 wrote:
It is 128k at the moment and hopefully going up to about 2m next month, but that doesn't solve the JavaScript issue, and also the fact that web based video which requires Javascript to be on (especially long videos) are strictly forbidden on all my computers anyway.

Ok, yeah, 128k is too slow... Perhaps you should get a cheap MacMini or  something so you can run Javascript :-?

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steve30 wrote:
My PC runs JavaScript perfectly well.

Yes, but you seem to have, wisely in my opinion, chosen to disallow Javascript to run on it... If you run a nice secure operating system system then you can allow Javascript again and enjoy all that the internet allows...

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steve30 wrote:
My current OS is already very secure. I do not generally run JavaScript on any system. Security doesn't come into it.

Then I'm honestly at a loss...

Enjoyment doesn't really come into it either. JavaScript can be useful sometimes, but has a tendancy to make site much worse, and alot slower these days. Nothing to do with enjoyment.

You have to be crazy... Javascript was the best thing to happen to the internet since html... You will find yourself increasingly isolated if you don't embrace new technologies... the web is going to get much more Javascript heavy, not less...  And when I say enjoy, I simply mean use... how do you use the vast array of services offered for free by many companies without Javascript?

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steve30 wrote:
What kind of services offered by what companies?

Only thing I can think of except for some forums where JavaScript comes in handy is ebay which seems to function perfectly fine without it.

Well lets start with iPlayer... where you can watch any BBC program you might have missed in the last week... Since I assume you pay your TV license, this is a service you have paid for an should take advantage of... then you wouldn't need to have someone record the show on to tape (20 century technology!!!)  and sending it to you via the post... this is not a modern way to live!

How about Gmail? I use it all the time, 6gigs free storage, and I can get my Emails anywhere in the world... also has a built in chat service with video...

How about social networking sites? Facebook, myspace?

How about YouTube? One of the single most useful sites on the internet...

My god, the list is endless!

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steve30 wrote:
I have no desire to watch any long TV programme in a web browser. If something is important I will record it onto a video tape and arrange to do this in advance. This has the advantage of not having to use the computer and I can keep the recording for a very long time if necessary. I don't pay a TV license currently, but even if I did, it would be soe I can watch the TV. I couldn't give a toss about the websites run by TV companies. I only use the BBC site for weather which can easily be obtained from other sites or from Ceefax, or just by watching the TV.

But if you own a TV then you need a license... that is the law...

Gmail works fine without Javascript (I have used it fine on my 030 A1200), but I use it in MS Outlook about 98% of the time so it's web interface doesn't matter. I intend to switch to another service soon though as I want my email address to use the domain name that I own. I use Google's chat service over BitlBee in any IRC client, along with MSN and AIM. I am not having extra programmes open for these since 95% of my online chat is on IRC.

Never used Facebook. No need. I gave up on Myspace after I thought, 'what the hell am I keeping this page up for when it's primary use is for Hodgekinson to leave me a message on the odd occaision when he can email me instead'. It's only other use was for people from school to call me a {bleep}. I no longer have any use for such sites and will not have any use for them in the forseeable future.

Hmmm.. you sound popular... :-?

As for YouTube, other than about 10 music videos that I have wanted to look up over the last year or so, I do not use it either. I am yet to find a video which is good or useful or has some relavence to me. And the quality of YouTube videos is absolutely {bleep} and they cannot be downloaded to watch later.

Actually they can be downloaded.. but then I use a Mac, perhaps you can't on Windows I've never tried...

And there is a High quality setting in your account, but since you don't use Javascript I doubt you've ever seen the settings page...

Any videos which I make will not be put on youtube as I do not want anything which I put effort in to be amongst a big pile of crap on someone elses website. Nor do I want someone else to decide what player it will be played in (i.e. flash) nor do I want to have someone else dictate the quality of the video. How YouTube is 'useful' I don't know.

That just about clears everything up.

Ok, fine... you missed a TV show... you claim to keep missing TV shows made by the BBC (which if I understand correctly, you legally have no right to watch)... The BBC offer a service that allows you to watch these programs if you miss them... But you choose not to use this service and still complain... I must say you are a very strange person.

Anyway, welcome to the 21st Century, I hope things aren't to scary for you!