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Sure the Video Phone is a solution for a problem that doesn't exist... Most phone calls I make are often no more than a minute in length... I almost always moving around or doing something else as well as the call, so even if I did have a video link, I wouldn't be able to look at the camera... And sometimes I don't someone to know where I am... or as mentioned, I might be looking like I've just been run over...

So granted, I would almost certainly never ever use a front camera... but that doesn't stop me wanting one... and even demanding one in the next iPhone ;-)

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uncharted wrote:

bloodline wrote:
Sure the Video Phone is a solution for a problem that doesn't exist... Most phone calls I make are often no more than a minute in length... I almost always moving around or doing something else as well as the call, so even if I did have a video link, I wouldn't be able to look at the camera... And sometimes I don't someone to know where I am... or as mentioned, I might be looking like I've just been run over...

So granted, I would almost certainly never ever use a front camera... but that doesn't stop me wanting one... and even demanding one in the next iPhone ;-)

And they're good for taking pics of yourself for an avatar right?  ;-)

Well, I have to find some use for the, ultimately pointless, built in 'webcam' that my MBP has... :-D

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uncharted wrote:

What is worse, you're a Londoner..

Now I've got a mental image of Bloodline dressed up as a Pearly King singing "Roll Out the Barrels"...  :-o

What?

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motorollin wrote:

uncharted wrote:
And they're good for taking pics of yourself for an avatar right?  ;-)

And watching yourself violate socks ;-)

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moto

Well... At least record the wanton act of self abuse for posterity...

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The thing is, there are only two types of people... Those who want an iPhone and those that have never used an iPhone.

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A4000_Mad wrote:

bloodline wrote:
The thing is, there are only two types of people... Those who want an iPhone and those that have never used an iPhone.

There's a third type of person! One who can't afford an iPhone so had to buy an 8GB memory card for his Nokia N95 :bigcry:

No... the above still fits into my category :-)

(£24.90 delivered from BMC Digital :pint:)

:-o Nice! :-D

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adolescent wrote:

bloodline wrote:
The thing is, there are only two types of people... Those who want an iPhone and those that have never used an iPhone.

You're right, there ARE two types of people...  Apple zealots who believe Steve Jobs is god, and those that are more firmly rooted in reality.

That's just an insult... at least my statement was rather clever word play :-P

But how St Jobs managed to turn a failing computer company  into what Apple is today is frightening... by rights Apple should have gone the way of Commmodore, Atari, Sincair, Acorn, etc...

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adolescent wrote:

bloodline wrote:

adolescent wrote:
You're right, there ARE two types of people...  Apple zealots who believe Steve Jobs is god, and those that are more firmly rooted in reality.

That's just an insult... at least my statement was rather clever word play :-P

It's more of a compliment.  In some ways you are like Apple disciples.  :-D

I don't like his holiness Jobs... But I have a huge amount of respect for him... I do really like Apple's products since 2006.

bloodline wrote:
But how St Jobs managed to turn a failing computer company  into what Apple is today is frightening... by rights Apple should have gone the way of Commmodore, Atari, Sincair, Acorn, etc...

What shape was Apple in when Jobs was ousted in 1985?  Seems like he was part of the problem back then.  

I think Apple was one of the biggest computer companies in 1985...

Good to see he fixed things.

By 1997 apple was losing money hand over fist, and old products unable to keep up with the rest of the industry... It's intriguing to see how he fixed things!

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adolescent wrote:

bloodline wrote:
I think Apple was one of the biggest computer companies in

Probably.  But, 1985 was the worst year of Apple's history up to that point.  1/5 of the workforce (1200 jobs) sacked , 3 of 6 factories closed, Mac sales ~10% of expected, first ever operating loss reported, etc.  All under Jobs watch.  

Actually John Sculley was the CEO at that time, Jobs had never been in charge of Apple until 1997 (and in the mid 70s)...

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adolescent wrote:

bloodline wrote:
Actually John Sculley was the CEO at that time, Jobs had never been in charge of Apple until 1997 (and in the mid 70s)...

Steve Jobs was the Chairman of the Board from 1981 until he was fired in 1985.  You don't get more "in charge" than that.

As proven by Jobs ousting, the CEO is more powerful.

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adolescent wrote:

bloodline wrote:
As proven by Jobs ousting, the CEO is more powerful.

Not quite.  It was the board of directors that sided with the CEO.  The CEO, Scully, did not actually fire him.  IIRC, the board asked him to resign and striped him of all operation duties, which led to him leaving.

Yes... it shows clearly that Jobs was not in control... he lost control in the 70s

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adolescent wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Yes... it shows clearly that Jobs was not in control... he lost control in the 70s

hmmph..  There is no use arguing with an Apple fanatic...  You are right, Steve Jobs can do no wrong.  He didn't ride the company down to the dumpster in the early 80s, sell off his stock and resign (all as Chairman of the Board and a majority stakeholder of the company).  Nope, didn't happen.  Look over there, something shiny.  :roll:

Shiny?!?! Where?

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If the iPhone is so bad... why is it that EVERY other manufacturer is now playing catch up...

I don't see any other manufacturer bringing out something totally different, or something that has prompted people to want to queue outside stores to obtain!

In fact I've not seen a single advert for another Mobile that has focused on anything other than the features which the iPhone has... Apple have a design philosophy, that no other manufacturer can understand.

It has been highlighted most by what has happened in Japan. The market has been driven by features, but the iPhone has changed all that.

Market research has shown time, and time again, most people use  10% of a phone's features 90% of the time!

What Apple do is actually quite simple. Only include the basic minimum features and then make them work in the most natural way possible. They look at how people use devices and then perfect that interface.

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motorollin wrote:

I don't see an emulator as any different.

The current Terms and Conditions of the AppStore do not allow for Emulators... This may change with then next Firmware update and the gumblings from Adobe... but right now Emulators are a no go...

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Flashlab wrote:
There's an easier way; jailbreak your iPhone and put apps on it directly.

While Jailbreaking offers no disadvantages other than a possible need to rejailbreak after a Firmware update... I would prefer to use official solutions :-(