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Re: Any German Amiga users out there?
« Reply #44 from previous page: June 08, 2008, 11:11:58 PM »
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
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Ok, I decided to "bite the bullet" and look into taking an actual German class... I went down to my local language school and had a look at their courses, all are reasonably priced and had acceptable timetables... So I took their "level finder" test to see where my current level of German is at.

The test was simple, 200 questions, all in German and I had to answer as many as possible in 20min. Early questions were easy, simple noun and verb agreement stuff... Later questions were more difficult and seemed context sensitive... Should I uses wollen or sollen? u.s.w... Word order and tenses were tested heavily.

The second part was 5min talking with an examiner...

Anyway, results back... I scored 86% Reading & writing... 20% listening and speaking... They don't know which class to put me in... My Reading and writing puts me at Advanced level... My listening and speaking puts me in at beginner level...


They suggested I go upper intermediate... With a proviso that I will struggle with the listening speaking part... But I might be able to catch up...


You obviously need to go to germany.


Ach! Natürlich herr speel!!! But that's not possible at this time! Be sure, the moment I can escape to Germany I will...


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Languages suck :-p :-D
Well, you speak only in a foreign language! I don't! I speak normal.


:lol: I forgot I speak in foreign... You'd think since I have one foreign language already, I've be better at another one... ;-)

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Re: Any German Amiga users out there?
« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2008, 12:10:53 AM »
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
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bloodline wrote:
Ok, I decided to "bite the bullet" and look into taking an actual German class... I went down to my local language school and had a look at their courses, all are reasonably priced and had acceptable timetables... So I took their "level finder" test to see where my current level of German is at.

The test was simple, 200 questions, all in German and I had to answer as many as possible in 20min. Early questions were easy, simple noun and verb agreement stuff... Later questions were more difficult and seemed context sensitive... Should I uses wollen or sollen? u.s.w... Word order and tenses were tested heavily.

The second part was 5min talking with an examiner...

Anyway, results back... I scored 86% Reading & writing... 20% listening and speaking... They don't know which class to put me in... My Reading and writing puts me at Advanced level... My listening and speaking puts me in at beginner level...


They suggested I go upper intermediate... With a proviso that I will struggle with the listening speaking part... But I might be able to catch up...


You obviously need to go to germany.


Ach! Natürlich herr speel!!! But that's not possible at this time! Be sure, the moment I can escape to Germany I will...

Hidden in ze madonna wiz ze big boobies?


'allo allo? Goood moaning,  A werz joost pissing by... ;-)

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Languages suck :-p :-D
Well, you speak only in a foreign language! I don't! I speak normal.


:lol: I forgot I speak in foreign... You'd think since I have one foreign language already, I'd be better at another one... ;-)
But you do speak foreign already, so what's this all about? :-?


Yes, I what is wrong with me? :-D

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Re: Any German Amiga users out there?
« Reply #46 on: June 09, 2008, 12:26:28 AM »
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'allo allo? Goood moaning,  A werz joost pissing by... ;-)

I say this only once


"Faffah, fah-fah fah-fah faah. Faffah, fah-fah fah-fah faah..."

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Yes, I what is wrong with me? :-D
Well, obviously, you have some linguistic disorder. For now, I'll leave you to the care of the night nurse


Good grief! What on earth was that?!?!?

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Re: Any German Amiga users out there?
« Reply #47 on: June 09, 2008, 12:04:04 PM »
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motorollin wrote:
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Yes, I what is wrong with me? :-D

Well, obviously, you have some linguistic disorder.

Since his first language was acquired normally, you cannot use the pattern of acquisition of his second language as an indicator of disordered language :-P



No, I think Speel is quite right... I've got some kind of twisted brain wrong... The lady at the language school said that it was weird for someone to be so good in one area, and so poor in the other... And to make matters worse, usually it's the reading/writing that is behind the speaking/listening :-(

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Re: Any German Amiga users out there?
« Reply #48 on: June 09, 2008, 10:19:21 PM »
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motorollin wrote:
Speaking, listening, reading and writing are all handled by different parts of the brain. That's why different types of aphasia affect different language modalities. It is perfectly possible for someone to have good reading/writing skills and not so good speaking/listening skills. You probably just need more practice at conversing in German to catch up with all the work you have done on your reading and writing skills.


For sure! unfortunately I'm much happier with theory than practice :-) It's the same with Music,  I am happy to read a book and compose a piece of music... actually practising a piece to perform... gah, that's boring ;-)

It's odd though, as most musicians I know, actually enjoy the performance much much more than the theory... weird...

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Also remember that spoken language is fleeting - once it has been said, it's gone and you have to process it mentally (i.e. remember it while you're translating it). And with spoken language you are under pressure to conform to the conventions of conversation - i.e. to speak fluently and not pause to work out what you're going to say next. At least with reading the words remain on the page indefinitely so you can take your time translating them, and with writing you can take as long as you want to work out the next word.


It's true! When reading German sentences I often flick back and forth picking up the nouns and verbs in the order that I expected them... It's only recently that I have learned to read linearly and build the sense of the sentence in my head... not easy given the length of German sentences :-D

I really enjoy reading and to a lesser extent listening to German... Writing I find difficult, but speaking is something that is still alluding me... My English gets in the way!

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Re: Any German Amiga users out there?
« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2008, 01:49:55 PM »
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I guess it's because Bloodline expected something campy from me when I post something from youtube.


Yes... and I wasn't sure exactly what I was watching... I'm really into Wolfsheim at the moment...

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Re: Any German Amiga users out there?
« Reply #50 on: June 12, 2008, 12:20:38 PM »
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Wolfsheim has it's moments indeed.


I bought a load of Wolfsheim back in the late 90's when I was really into Synthpop... Anyway, the CD's got packed away, and were lost for the last 8 years or so... Found them only the other week, and can't stop listening! And now I can understand a fair bit of the German, which is an added bonus!?!?