How about creating a Open AMIGA Consortium?

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Minuous wrote:
Yes, the ICOA (Industry Council Open Amiga).

Yes and I tried to put together an "OpenAMiGA" spec, back in 2003-2004... with the idea of delivering a base specification of compatibility between the AmigaOS clones... no one was very interested and the idea fizzled out.

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Hans_ wrote:

biggun wrote:

Yes and I tried to put together an "OpenAMiGA" spec, back in 2003-2004... with the idea of delivering a base specification of compatibility between the AmigaOS clones... no one was very interested and the idea fizzled out.

The idea is still good and the situation did change now.


In 2003 there was no new working classic HW available, was it?

This has changed.
There is the MiniMig, and Natami is working too.
We have AGA and even much more powerful now.

IIRC, Bloodline's idea was a common spec for classic and NG Amiga OSes, not just 68k Amigas. Having a common set of libraries would make writing software that works on all systems much easier.

If Bloodline is talking about the attempt that I remember, most feedback was negative, suggesting that the standard was pretty arbitrary (or something like that), unnecessary, etc.

Hans

Yup, the very same.

I still have all the specs somewhere... things like exec.library 39.x... MUI 3.8... AHI x.x (something)... cgfx.library x.x (again something)... the idea that all systems would deliver API's compatible with that minimum spec...

I still think it's a good idea... :-)

-Edit- Thinking about it, it was less of a spec and more of an Audit of the commonality of the available Amiga clone systems...

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A6000 wrote:
Could the community agree on an alternative name for all amiga clones which everyone will know, or come to know means, amiga compatible?

What's wrong with MiniMig, NetAmi and CloneA?

We also need a reverse engineered operating system.

We already have one... AROS...

Then we can forget amiga inc.

We already can. I already do.

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A6000 wrote:

bloodline wrote:

A6000 wrote:
Could the community agree on an alternative name for all amiga clones which everyone will know, or come to know means, amiga compatible?

What's wrong with MiniMig, NetAmi and CloneA?

these are product names, we need a common brand name, as MSX or PC was.

Amiga...

We also need a reverse engineered operating system.

We already have one... AROS...

Fair enough but is there a 68k version?

The bounty is is open.

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A6000 wrote:
Do I need to mention that OEM's will not be allowed to use the amiga name at any price.

Doesn't really matter! You can still call it Amiga compatible... MiniMig with a 68k build of AROS would be just such a machine...

Does aros offer better features than os4

I don't know, I've only every used AROS... AROS does have a few features better than OS4... Hardware independence and open source and a modern web browser...

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trekiej wrote:
Does anyone here care to make a Wikipedia entry?

Why waste time... the Wikipolice will delete anything...

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LawlessPPC wrote:
i propose Amigan its close enough and it describes what it is

Amigoid?

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We should name them them Bloodline as they are part of the Amiga bloodline.. and obviously in honour of me :-)

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trekiej wrote:
Where does all this hardware and software information get collected?

1. Dedicated Web site.

2. Pre-amble, manifesto, constitution? Sorry, I have not done this before.

3. Officers?

I think the first thing you have to do is work out what you want to achieve... right now all you have is a bunch of ideas.

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@amigadave

That's a very nice little fantasy... But it's not realistic, if the idea of an Amiga is to be real, we need to decide exactly what we want to acheive and why.

I've been here before 5 years ago, so I have no desire to rehash my old OpenAMiGA spec...

But think about it... A reasonable goal would be to create an opensource platform totally compatible with the Amiga500 with the intention of perhaps building an all in one games console... For example.

This is both achieveable and realistic, the minimig needs bug fixes and cost reduction, Aros needs the 68k port to be brought back uptodate (but we would only need 1.3 compatibility)... So there is a lot of work to do, but everything needed is already there. If this can be done then more advanced plans can be made.

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AMC258 wrote:
No A3000 ever came with OCS.

The 600 was ECS too...

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Actually, that's:

Audio: 4 x 8bit

or 2 x 14bit (trick).

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amigadave wrote:

bloodline wrote:
@amigadave

That's a very nice little fantasy... But it's not realistic, if the idea of an Amiga is to be real, we need to decide exactly what we want to acheive and why.

I've been here before 5 years ago, so I have no desire to rehash my old OpenAMiGA spec...

But think about it... A reasonable goal would be to create an opensource platform totally compatible with the Amiga500 with the intention of perhaps building an all in one games console... For example.

This is both achieveable and realistic, the minimig needs bug fixes and cost reduction, Aros needs the 68k port to be brought back uptodate (but we would only need 1.3 compatibility)... So there is a lot of work to do, but everything needed is already there. If this can be done then more advanced plans can be made.

My thoughts are a fantasy to most, but could be a possibility to many remaining Amiga fans.  

Well... anything is possible, but we do have to be realistic...

Your idea could be a step along the way to something better.  My point is that we, the Amiga community, cannot and should not wait any longer for companies to come up with the next Amiga, or Amiga-Like computer hardware design.  

I decided that 8 years ago when I put my, support and money behind teh AROS project.

With the advancements provided with projects like MorphOS, Minimig, NatAmi & CloneA, it is clear that it IS possible for the community to take charge of our future and move forward in spite of all the lies we have been fed by Hyperion and Amiga Inc.

I'm not sure what the MorphOS team are up to at the moment, but my point is that we have had the opertunity as a community to take control years ago. Opensource software and commodity hardware is the future. Opensource Hardware is good too, but you have to be realistic.

Let's bring the community together again.  The Amiga was/is about all the so very talented, passionate, programmers and users that made/make the Amiga community the best and kept the Amiga alive long after C= folded.  It is time to unite under one common goal and work together.

Yes... that's why we need to focus on AROS, which is the only resonable future direction for the community, if the community wants to control it's own future...