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Re: only Amigaos
« on: June 01, 2003, 01:46:24 AM »
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The OS4 is the only successor of the amigaos, because we like or not, AmigaInc is now the proprietor of amiga, and everything the rest that they take out (morphos,aros in intel etc...) it is not amiga.    
That the Os4 doesn't like? That AmigaInc doesn't like? I find a good opinion (although it doesn't share it), but that this passing with morphos, aros etc.... alone it harms to amiga  because divide to the community, and if we are not now many", then we will be less.    
   
I think that the best thing for the amiga had been that they had united the forces all to take out an operating system that truly surprised in the market and not this.

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I for one, like the choice that the current "market" allows. I like choice (I'll stop now, before I start to sound like the Matrix 2).   ;-)

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Re: only Amigaos
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2003, 06:37:09 PM »
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But i believe AmigaOS is the only real Amiga because, it has OS3.1 as its base code.


Code wise, OS4 has as much in common with the 3.1 code as AROS or MorphOS - i.e. nothing but lip service.


True, the AOS 3.1 source code is of little use to anyone...

From a technical standpoint, AROS is the closest to AmigaOS 3.1... Thus it is binary compatible on 68k hardware

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Re: only Amigaos
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2003, 09:07:50 PM »
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To be qualified as being AmigaOS-like or maybe just inspired is very much dependent on the Eye of the Beholder. Some think only MorphOS (in combination with the ABOX environment) and AROS qualify as such, others would include BeOS (and clones), AtheOS, intent and many others on the list as well.


Well, AROS is AmigaOS like, becuae it is a clone, right down to the smallest sub system... It works just like AmigaOS 3.1 works. Thus if you run it on a real Amiga, Amiga software won't know that it's not running on AmigaOS 3.1...

BeOS, AtheOS.. etc... are Amiga inspired, but they don't work like AmigaOS 3.1 works.
MOS is clever... and is different to all of the above... it's a bit like two OS's running together... hmmm, that's a bad description... nevermind, you get the idea.

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Re: only Amigaos
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2003, 11:57:29 PM »
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amigamad wrote:
choice and competition helps the market and can only make each os better . :-)
It's really not that simple. The fact is the Amiga market is a micro-market in the much bigger computer market (aka PC market). For the Amiga market to survive the Amiga market itself must continue to grow. So to say that it's good for the Amiga market to have choice is true from someone within the market, however, overall the lack of a solid standard and a united front against the main PC market makes it hard (or impossible) for the general Amiga market to grow.

It is well known that the best way to defeat your enemy is to first divide and then conquor. The Amiga market has voluntarily divided itself up into sperate, smaller, less influential camps that often war against each other. Over all I think the Amiga market is experiencing what I call "destruction". Putting a positive spin on this "choice" is missleading, the net effect is a smaller user base with less software support which equals a dead platform.

There is really only one chance for the Amga to make a comback and that is re-unite. The name "Amiga" is far more powerful then any technical merits and thus makes it a wise choice to become the back-bone of the market. Currently Eyetech make the Amga hardware and Hyperion make the OS and Amiga Inc liscences out it's name. Sounds like a winning combination to me. Support for MorphOS is a waste of time in my opinion and only serves to guarantee the complete failure of both platforms.

  - Mike


You make a vaild point, but I would hate to be back in the commodore situation again... the parent company goes bankrupt... the end.

At least with MOS and to a greater extent AROS, we have a chance to continue...