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Re: Opportunity
« on: January 27, 2005, 03:45:21 PM »
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Re: Opportunity
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2005, 04:17:13 PM »
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Well, if you would kindly send $20000 to his Nigerian bank account, then he can easily cover his expenses and move the $5 million temporarily frozen by the bank and of course then be fully capable of providing you with your triple earnings on the investment, plus making the Amiga project come true.


Sounds like a good deal!! Count me in!

-Edited Out comparisons with various Amiga related companies-

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Re: Opportunity
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2005, 05:06:18 PM »
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I'm trying to divulge as little as possible for the sake of how that might effect the acceptance of the proposal. But I suppose I can admit the basic idea: A _widely_ marketable amiga-based platform.



Sell it to me... What is the benefit of being Amiga Based?

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Re: Opportunity
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2005, 10:01:22 PM »
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The benefits of a) AmigaOS and b) Customizied hardware.


a) Ah yes, no software and an expensive licence (well, more expensive than free)

b) ok, expensive and incapable of doing anything useful.

Seriously, I don't want to know your idea... I just want to know what the Amiga has to do with it.

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Re: Opportunity
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2005, 07:50:30 AM »
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a) Ah yes, no software and an expensive licence (well, more expensive than free)

b) ok, expensive and incapable of doing anything useful.

Seriously, I don't want to know your idea... I just want to know what the Amiga has to do with it.


Understandable. What does Amiga have to do with it? She is  what I want to have to do with it!

Sure, why not do Linux. Why not stick with Windows. Why not?

Because Amiga is my Spirit. She is what I love, and have loved all these years. And it is to her that I will remain true.

She needs us now more than ever. Time is a strain upon her. Someone must rise up to bring the fold back together. So I follow the calling. I will find her. I will bring her back.

Too poetic for you? Try this: Because Amiga is worth it! Don't you beleive that too?

T.


Poetic, yes. Laudable, yes. But you've said nothing that makes any business sense! :-(

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Re: Opportunity
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2005, 01:40:46 PM »
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Poetic, yes. Laudable, yes. But you've said nothing that makes any business sense!


Okay. That's a fair point. AmigaOS doesn't have the strong application base. That is a real difficulty --probably the most difficult. Of course, one of the goals is compatability with classic software, but even that is only a partial solution. We certainly will be pushing hard to sign on developers geared torward our initial market. But beyond that we may well need to offer a Linux-comaptability layer (perhaps coLinux) or Wine, although I am hopeful we will not need to do so --it does remain to be seen.

There are a lot of good classic apps out there, if we can get some of the major important modern apps ported like firefox and openoffice, then it should suffice for starters --at least for that area of the market.

Does that anwser your question a bit more (without spilling actual beans)?

T.


Try and put yourself in the shoes of a potential investor... All he hears is; "Blah blah, linux, blah, Firefox, openoffice, blah blah..."

He's going say, great get a cheap x86 Mobo (Mini-ITX for £50) and stick Linux on it. When you start saying... our idea actually uses a £400 and can't actually run Firefox or Openoffice due to limitations in the AmigaOS API (it can't support the fork() function for example, so you will need a major rewrite of these two apps alone), and thus a "linux layer" (which needs to be developed) won't be able to support all Linux apps etc... Don't forget there is no memory protection so stability is an issue... What is he going to say to you?

I don't want to rain on your parade but make sure you have all the facts, and be realistic.


P.S. CoLinux and Wine can't run in AmigaOS, the architectural differences are too great and Wine only works on x86 machine.

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Re: Opportunity
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2005, 02:18:36 PM »
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He he. Don't worry. I have every point you've made under consideration.

I realize there is difficulty in selling Amiga vs. XYZ. And some weak points in the OS do need to be addressed. But I'm not mistaken there are already a number of people working on them.


Which is why I want to you be well aware of the limitations of the platform. You can only prevail, if you keep this realistic.

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You for instance.

For if it is all so unrealistic, then why do you support AROS?

T.



Hehehe, I wondered when that would be brought up. AROS is my hobby, I have watched it grow for 7 years. It makes me happy to play with it. I know it's probably never going to be a comercial success, but that doesn't matter as it's open source and free. Maybe someone will modify it to allow the inclusion of more modern OS design features (The primary one being Memory protection), but that will render it incompatible with exisiting software... It doesn't matter, because anyone can use it and anyone can modify it to suit a particular need or market (And it runs on standard, cheap hardware). Oh, the joy of OpenSource :-)


I do love AROS, but then I love my Cat, and I wouldn't try and run him for president (regardless of you policial views Bush would probably beat him).