Classic Amiga patents...

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SKAN wrote:
I was wondering who the hell is the owner of Classic Amiga hardware IP. Is it Gateway still?

Sorry guys, still dreaming of a C=1-like classic Amiga mobo...

As far as anyone is aware, all the Amiga patents have now expired. Gateway are the owners.

All that is left now are the Amiga trademarks... of which I think only the "Amiga" name in and it's use in relation computer equipment (maybe even just software now) is still maintained, one would presume by KMOS.

If you want a C=1 like Classic amiga there is nothing stopping, there never has been. You would not need to use the original patents to program up a couple of FPGA's to mimic the functions of the Amiga chipset. Though to do so would be pointless, complex and expensive... Running UAE on a cheap PC would be far more senible :-)

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It is also incorrect to claim that all of these patents have already expired. Patent protection lasts for 20 years and some of the patents date back to 1987 meaning that some will only expire in 2007, not before

I can't find any submitted after 1983 :-?

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Wayne wrote:
I believe he would be talking about the later Commodore inventions, such as AAA and the graphics subsystem -- the name escapes me -- unveiled in the 4000/1200.  These did not exist in 1983, and 87/88 would be about the right timeframe.  I would have even said maybe 89/90 or so, but will bow to Ben on this issue since he's probably much more knowledgeable on the subject than I am.

Hmmm, but the AGA chipset was nothing more than an enhancement of the OCS, nothing in there was new (or was it :-D) certainly nothing patentable.

Regardless, the later patents would be valueless compared with the original DMA, Graphics Processor and Right Mouse Click etc, patents that were revolutionary in 1983 when they were submitted.

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SKAN wrote:
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If you want a C=1 like Classic amiga there is nothing stopping, there never has been. You would not need to use the original patents to program up a couple of FPGA's to mimic the functions of the Amiga chipset. Though to do so would be pointless, complex and expensive... Running UAE on a cheap PC would be far more senible :-)

It seems that is not possible to replicate an Amiga on FPGA. Someone else tried without success...

What I mean is a super low-cost Amiga compatible: with today's technology you can have an "Amiga On A Chip"! Do you remember the SAM Coupe'? Same thing, but with Amiga compatibility instead of Spectrum!
UAE is not the way, sorry. Not only it lacks the feeling , but even REAL compatibility. Anyway until WinUAE 2.0
And you cannot have a *decent* PC to run a *decent* UAE on it for few bucks...

This thought came in mind because my Amiga is getting older and I don't wanna buy another expensive PC/Mac/whatever just to run an emulator on it.

All I ask for is a demo-machine and WHDload.
Simply.  :-D

Before you say any more, get yourself a £250 HP iPAQ and run UAE on it... flying across the atlantic with over a hundred Amiga games in my hand was a joy! The 8 hours went in a flash.

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SKAN wrote:

Before you say any more, get yourself a £250 HP iPAQ and run UAE on it... flighing across the atlantic with over a hundred Amiga games in my hand was a joy! The 8 hours went in a flash.

So I guess PocketUAE is stable and cool enough? I should try a Dell Axim...

I was using the 1st release, so I had 1 frame frame skip on, and I switched off the sound, but I was addicted to Megalomania and Lemmings :-)

Luckly I has spare batteries with me :-D