$755 and 8 days to go

[dillinger]

yep. That is a - what - 11 year old piece of outdated hardware? You could buy a brand new 1GHz PPC based Pegasos for that.

The words lost grip and reality spring to mind.

[dillinger]

yeh, Mr. 0 Rating from Turkey does seem a little suspect. Well, at least he is serving a purpose - seems to be whipping the other guys up into some kind of rabid bidding frenzy. You'd think they'd pace themselves and wait until a little closer to the end. Play it tactical-like :-)

I think what we are about to witness is known as group panic and hysteria.  :-P

[dillinger]

"- it is rev2 board whilst so, so, so many are not.

Especially the last part is interresting for someone that wants to use a Grex in the best way."

That's probably the most _unimportant_ aspect of any BPPC card, unless for some strange reason you feel you must have G-Rex support. And who would be silly enough to attach a BPPC card to a busboard that has been known to _fry_ cards in the past. But then I guess you could argue who would be silly enough to pay $750 for ancient electrical hardware too!! :lol: All revisions work perfectly with any other busboard. (Mediator, etc) So anyone who finds value in BPPC board-revision numbers does not know much about the card to begin with.

Actually, the most "interesting" thing for me about this particular auction would be the fact that the board was originally a 040 based BPPC which has had a 060 hacked on. If you take a close look at the colour tone of that 060 cpu you will see it is a light mauve colour. Original BPPC card 68k chips were all a much darker tone. They also had the Motorola logo printed near the top edge and an angled "half-square" to the left of that, this one doesn't. The 060 chip in this auction  is not standard Phase5/DCE issue. Perhaps this is why there are no photos showing the underside of the board where the 060 CPU resoldering job could be seen! :-)

Take a look at the seller's purchase history and you will spot the ORIGINAL 040 BPPC card which was almost certainly used in the "hack job" imo. £130 he paid for that! So not a bad profit margin there I'd say :-) The bidders should just prey that he has done a better job than in the past with the hack and that really THIS card is not one he forgot to include in one of his previous"Spare Parts" auctions. Seems he has screwed-up the hack once or twice in the past (RIP) :-) Which is not difficult to do

If I was insane enough to spend this type of cash on an old accelerator, it would have to be in absolute _perfect_ condition, boxed, with manuals - not a dodgy hack-job! After all, these eBay-loonies are going to endup paying MORE for it than it would have cost to buy 12 years ago brand new. They seem to have no common sense!

[dillinger]

quite simply: no! tbh, I think this amazing price hike is all to do with AOS4. As its - supposed - release draws closer with no real signs of any new h/w to run it on, people see old rusting 240MHz BPPC cards as the only currently available hardware option for AOS4. They're all in a tizz-wozz to grab the last remaining few (literally whether they are dead or alive) and you see the bloody lunatic battles that ensue on eBay for yourself.

Anyhow, I have decided to jump the loonie-PPC-AOS4 Amiga ship and join the Pegasos2-PPC-MorphOS revolution! Fantastic OS, highly compatible with PowerUP Amigas and many times more power than any BPPC card.

[dillinger]

 @ BootWB

Well, the fact is you're not actually a totally honest trader, despite all your rants above. You listed the card and made a point of pointing out the fact that the: "PPC is a natural 240MHz 603e - NOT overclocked" at the very top of the listing, in a large bold font! The reason that point was made so clearly is because you understand, like the rest of us, that this is an important fact that would increase your own profits. So it was in your own interest to point it out in your listing.

However you "conveniently" forgot to mention the fact that the card is a 040 to 060 conversion/hack. You failed to, honestly, point out the fact that the card has undergone what can be a very stressful and damaging process for such an old card. That hack is far more potentially damaging than repositioning 3 resistors to "overclock" the card a few MHz - and you know it. So I don't really get your "honesty-logic" when you point out that the card is NOT overclocked, yet fail to tell people that its a 040>060 hack-job.

But then you know that honestly pointing the hack out would decrease the card's value significantly. So you just didn't mention it and deliberately did not show photos which would reveal the truth. So when I say you're not an honest trader; that's not "libellous" - it's just good old-fashioned FACT.

I'm sure there are quite a few people in your position who would just love for there to be some kind of admin restriction placed on "eBay speculation" threads on Amiga.org, because (like deliberately failing to fully inform people of your card's history) it would be very "convenient" for you personally and financially. But I think actually this thread has been very useful and has helped to inform people of the facts. That's the whole purpose of any discussion board, btw.