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Offline mechy

Re: Best storage I can get? FastATA MK-VI 4000 CF/SATA
« on: January 06, 2015, 04:51:56 AM »
Quote from: amiga1260;781118
I saw a YouTube video that a FastATA MKVI 4000 has almost the same speed as a Cyberstorm mark III SCSI-3 Controller.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NucMgn2byVk

LOL not on the best days.He is using a cyberstorm MKII which is narrow 50 pin scsi rated 10MB/s. What they don't show you is the cpu overhead the Fastata has. SCSI is very cpu friendly in most case(proper scsi on the accelerator). zorro3 scsi will have more overhead.
the Cyberstorm MKIII/PPC ultrawide scsi will walk off and leave all these behind.
Sysinfo is not a good test for disk speed either.
 

Offline mechy

Re: Best storage I can get? FastATA MK-VI 4000 CF/SATA
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2015, 09:02:14 PM »
Quote from: Damion;781122
You won't get 10 MB/s with a Fastlane or 4091 and a Cyberstorm MK2, but 4-5 MB/s and some 90% free CPU (according to RSCP).* Raw transfer rate aside, filesystem benchmarks (like SysSpeed for example) are just as fast with the 4091 as they are on my accelerators with onboard SCSI, so the system "feels" very nippy in general use. For kicks I've even transferred a ton of files between my 4091 and DENEB in DMA mode (a no-no) and it "seems" to work OK with no file corruption or lockups.

Bottom line: Cyberstorm MK2 and 4091 work very well together, no complaints here. I'm using a CF AztecMonster on mine, also tested real SCSI HDD's and CD drives, all work fine.

The FastATA obviously has a higher transfer rate, but it eats all your CPU in the process - no thanks.

*The Fastlane can do a bit better (maybe 7 MB/s IIRC) if you fiddle with the settings, but then it eats considerably more CPU. Both of these cards perform better DMAing to motherboard RAM than accelerator RAM (some hardware quirk), but I digress.

edit: It just hit me, you might actually have an easier time finding a SCSI module for your MK2 than a 4091 or Fastlane, or at least equal chance. You probably know that the MK2 SCSI module won't work if your accelerator is overclocked, but is obviously the best performing option of the 3.

I have gotten 8.5MB/s off the fastlane z3. This is with the latest 8.5 roms(most the fastlanes out there have old roms).

There are 2 different scsi modules for the cyberstorm MKII, one particular scsi chip will easily work fine with overclocking to 66mhz. I seem to recall the other is his and miss. One had a Qlogic chip and the other a LSI if memory serves. Benchmarks rarely consider CPU usage and its my experience that scsi on the accelerator almost always wins over anything else for lowest cpu use. Fastlane Z3,4091,etc come in second. As you say in daily use its hard to distinguish.
 

Offline mechy

Re: Best storage I can get? FastATA MK-VI 4000 CF/SATA
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2015, 09:10:20 PM »
Quote from: Kawazu;781129
I used to have an csppc,  did not use the ppc side that often  and got fed up with old scsi disks and scsi to ide/sata converters so I bought myself a fast ata 4000 for my 3000T

I went from about 30mb/s to 6-7mb/s
Can't say I notice any difference on day to day use but when I transfer big files there ofc will be a slowdown and I miss my ppc a bit.

The fast ata is a very nice card and it's easy to setup and get working.
Sure it drains a bit of CPU but it ain't like the system can't be used while you are transferring files.

If you are like me and tired of those old and loud scsi drives and want an ide/sata configuration with Maby an ssd drive or any thing I would say go for it.

I use a samsung pro 850 ssd on my CSPPC with the addonics scsi to sata bridge, its fast,quiet and has all the storage i could ever want. I cant believe you gave a csppc up.My combo does just around 35MB/s :crazy: