Jens Shoenfeld's anwer to the Apollo petition

[mechy]

I called this the sensible course of action, but I did also sign the petition.

He's well within his rights, no doubt about it.

That said, it's a shame yet another piece of hardware is going to die off for lack of documentation.

I don't believe "buying it to keep it off the market for our own good", I'm sure it was buying it to jumpstart a new product and the design turned out to be crap.

He didn't buy it to kill it originally,its after he bought it and found out what a poor problematic design it was and then decided to kill it.

junk should be eliminated from the market,but the problem is instead of buying a decent blizzard or cyberstorm board,almost everyone goes for cheap, and you get what you pay for.

mech

[mechy]

While I agree with you that its good that the Mach chips will be available due to the petition, I hardly thing that one of the remaining Amiga hardware manufacturers should tell potential customers to "f-off tossers" that is NOT good business. That kind of atittude i s NOT how you treat the community. (someone should tell some other amiga companies we know this as well)  Unfortanely with the level of fanboyism some amiga -ish companies feel like they can get away with bad customer support and products. We should just be grateful they are there. (even though we pay with hard earned money)

Having pride in what one sells and being the guy responsible for warranty is not a easy thing. Jens didn't tell anyone to f-off. Just because he runs a company does not mean he can't have a personal opinion. i didn't see any attitude in his quoted text,he was direct and simply told it how it is.
Anyone should stand behind their products.

If you think its so easy try building items for a near thankless market that won't support your living-Most anything we amigans get hardware wise is nearly a labor of love.. Then warranty those said products for xx years. he deals with everything from people running his stuff on poor/underpowered/incorrect power supplies to people not reading instructions and plugging stuff up wrong only to fry it then incessant whining when its not warrantied when they kill it. You need to try the other side of the fence my friend. See how you come out at the end.

Mech

[mechy]

Mechy I wasnt talking about Jens specifically. I was adressing the comment "i would have told them to F-off tossers"

Also, I had a Toaster and amiga business with a public phone number. Believe me I know how hard it is to deal with amiga customers :0

Sorry about that if i misread.

Mech