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Re: Amiga 4000T not booting
« on: April 26, 2008, 02:50:22 AM »
The PIV does not require a special rom-version to show the
bootmenu. It can be a bit tricky though to get it to
display the bootmenu at all. I have a lyra ps/2 keyboard
adapter, and the only way that i can get to the piv
bootmenu is by pressing 1 of the shift keys while resetting
the system. If I press the key too late or too early,
the bootmenu won't show and the system just boots straight
into workbench. As already said, if the normal amiga
bootmenu shows up, then the piv bootmenu should show up
too.

Edit: Thought I could get the piv bootmenu only when
pressing both shiftkeys, but pressing 1 shift-key
is enough. It doesn't matter which one.
It's just the timing of when to press the key what's
important.

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Re: Amiga 4000T not booting
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2008, 03:43:45 AM »
Yes, repeatedly hitting the shift key also should work,
but you have do it very quickly. I just tried it on
my system and it worked 2 out of 3 times.
Good luck.

Edit:Maybe you'll have more luck, if you repeatedly pressed
both shift keys (very quickly). It was easier getting the
bootmenu pressing both keys than with pressing only 1.

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Re: Amiga 4000T not booting
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2008, 04:14:25 AM »
Not to my knowledge. But if you want to be sure, you can
always ask Elbox. But I really think it's your timing of
pressing the keys. You're not the only one having this
problem. The only reason I can do it fairly easy, is that
I have the concierto addon and it plays a system startup
sound, so I can sort of figure out when to press the shift
key.

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Re: Amiga 4000T not booting
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2008, 05:17:51 AM »
KS 3.0 and later have a boot delay to check for IDE devices
I think the boot delay may be the culprit. I use scsi
myself and have nothing attached to the IDE connector.
To solve the boot delay problem I use a blizkick module
called NOIDE. This disables the onboard ide and cuts down
boot-time as soon as blizkick kicks in. this means that
on a cold boot i get the 30 sec delay, and after that
with each reboot i get no more delay.
For testing purposes i disabled blizkick and tried
accessing the piv bootmenu. Try waiting for like 20 secs
and then start pumping your shift keys like a madman.
Keep on doing this for another 15 seconds.
That worked for me.

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Re: Amiga 4000T not booting
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2008, 06:21:42 AM »
Sorry, I don't have an eflash. I really don't know.
Maybe someone here on the forum owns one and can help
you out. Also I should let you know there also is a
hardware solution for the delay problem.
IDE-Killer

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Re: Amiga 4000T not booting
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2008, 02:41:51 AM »
Just read the docs for my paloma addon for the piv.
It came with firmware 7.4 where the boot menu was
introduced. So I guess I was wrong, sorry about that  :-D
So if you have piv firmware prior to 7.4, *edit: and you
want to use the boot menu *, you must flash you piv with
the latest firmware. Boot without startup-sequence and
setpatch and run p4update. The program returns some info
when the update is finished.

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Re: Amiga 4000T not booting
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2008, 02:54:24 AM »
I don't remember how long it takes. The docs say
p4update should give a message when the update has
finished. I strongly advise you NOT to interrupt
the update process.

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Re: Amiga 4000T not booting
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2008, 03:00:26 AM »
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I just added this to my CD0 tooltype:


You must enter this info in the CD0 file itself.
Open CD0 in a texteditor and edit the appropriate
lines.

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Re: Amiga 4000T not booting
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2008, 04:02:18 AM »
What CD-filesystem are you using now ?

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Re: Amiga 4000T not booting
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2008, 04:14:13 AM »
Well, earlier you mentioned that you own a PC.
Can't you just load the CD on you PC, copy CD0.info
and CD0 from your OS3.9 to floppy and read it on the
amiga with CrossDOS (don't forget to adjust it with
the correct device and unit number)?. Also did you do
what Matthey said and turn CD-ROM filesystem off in the
CSPPC bootmenu?

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Re: Amiga 4000T not booting
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2008, 04:24:03 AM »
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I tried editing the CD0 file itself, I was allowed to open it, but after editing I was not allowed to save the file.


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It turns out there is no cd0 file only the cd0.info file :( I hope someone can help me out getting me that file :)


I don't get it  :-?  Do you have a CD0 file or not?

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Re: Amiga 4000T not booting
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2008, 04:36:59 AM »
You don't have to install winuae to copy the file.
Just use Explorer to copy it to floppy.
And yes, your CD isn't working because the file
is missing.

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Re: Amiga 4000T not booting
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2008, 05:31:45 AM »
I don't own a Cyberstorm PPC, so I can't help you with
that. Maybe you should start a new thread about this,
after all your amiga is working now.
BTW about the piv flashing, maybe you should just let it
be. If your flickerfixer settings don't need to be reset,
and if your not going to use a concierto or paloma etc.,
and if all is working well, the bootmenu isn't that
usefull. You know what they say: if it ain't broke, don't
fix it.

Regards,
Lloyd