FS: D-UAE Dedicated Amiga Emulation Station 2nd Gen w/ AmigaOS 4.1

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Keep in mind what the legal director stated quite clearly:

Also, please no business advice.

We'll take our advice from people like Trevor, Matthew Leaman, Steven Solie (who came up with the "Hyperion Blog"), Jens S. from Individual, Michael from Cloanto etc. i.e. people and developers who have put their money where their mouth is or have actually contributed significantly to AmigaOS development.

Take a look at Trevor's recent Blog post and the picture he posted from the meeting in Brussels.

Those are the people that Hyperion management relies on for decision making.

And even if you think they are bad decisions, it is our money and we can spend it any way we want, yes, even on AmigaOS development.

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Perhaps contacting and discussing ideas would be better served by talking to those he mentioned instead of direct contact with Hyperion.

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I don't think doing an end-around on Hyperion would be such a good idea.

TCMSLP hit the nail squarely on the head! Read between the lines of his post... try to understand how Hyperion does business (and that's not a statement regarding Hyperion, it's a statement regarding "business"). Realistically, for C64MAN to continue reselling AOS4.X he would have to become a "partner" with, not only Hyperion, but those who Hyperion partners with. There's a "chain" of businesses here. The "chain" of businesses simply cannot be held responsible for how their product performs on C64MAN's machines. If even "one" disappointment came back to one of the "authorized resellers/supporters", with how AOS4.x performs on C64MAN's machines - or even requests for general support, or something like "I want my OS4.X product money back" (more than likely on a Amiga user forum), would start a $h!tstorm for all involved in that "chain of business". Well, enough of that... just learn a little something about the business world. Simply put, Hyperion doesn't want to support C64MAN's product. It has nothing to do with the "personal feelings" of the end user/consumer. [DISCLAIMER ON]And no, I'm not a representative for Hyperion or trying to be a smarty-pants[/DISCLAIMER OFF]

Who said anything about an "end-around"? And this is a general posting, directed at the thread, not at C64MAN or his projects specifically by any stretch.
These (the people listed) are his (Ben Herman's) advisors...his technical and financial (as in funding) advisors.
If one of those he trusts brings a project to his attention it will carry more weight than an unknown individual approaching Hyperion directly.

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What the hell is up with that source?  I'm not a member of that forum and rarely (i.e., never) look at it, but all I see is post after post reading: "Edited by Mod:  This has been addressed"  Is it common on that forum for comments to be deleted/edited by mods in that way?  How is anyone supposed to what the original question even was?  Granted, it is Franko, so it's probably BS questions, but...  I dunno.  It just rubs me wrong.  

My source link goes to a readable posting, the source of my quote. I realize it's difficult not to read further postings in such a thread, but my attempt was to point only to the words of the owner, to avoid 2nd or 3rd hand opinion on the topic.
Anyway, the entire thread without deletions was preserved for posterity, but I don't call the unedited version a healthy read really

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First it doesnt run AmigaForever,  It is based on a specialized WinUAE Config,  The reason it comes with an AmigaForever License is because of the legal issues with the ROMs and Workbench that comes with it.    So by purchasing an AmigaForever License for each one,  that takes care of the legal issues regarding the roms and workbench software.

First I got heat for calling it the AmigaMini,  So i changed the Name to D-UAE Dedicated Amiga Emulation Station.   Now what else am I supposed to call it??,   It is what it is,  a Dedicated Amiga Emulation Station.   I can't just call it the Dedicated Emulation Station because it just runs AmigaOS.    

Essentially what you are saying is the Amiga Name is forbidden forever.  Im not going to rename it again.  Its a good product and it sells well.  People enjoy the ease of just plugging in a system and have it work out of the box.  

Gen 2 will not be sold with OS 4.1.   It will be just like Gen 1 except for the fact that it will be quite a bit faster and come with more accessories.

In addition to what has already been stated about the name "Amiga Mini", you also would be connecting yourself to Amiga Games Inc. (and Bill McEwen). Most of planet Earth would say this is not a good thing.

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This connection exists due to cross promotion agreements with, amongst others...licensees. In this case CommodoreUSA.

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Didn't AROS have to change it's name, as well?  (what it stood for, anyway)  %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!, the only people getting rich off the Amiga name anymore are lawyers.  Ridiculous.  

That is correct.

AROS drops Amiga from its name!

Point of reference: This was in response to the filing a month earlier of Amiga Inc. vs Hyperion VOF.

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