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Re: New Kickstart 3.9.1 68k on the way
« on: December 16, 2014, 02:53:50 PM »
@olsen
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t could be done if there were sufficient interest to back an AmigaOS rework if the current technology owner gave its consent,

And who would that be to the best of your knowledge?
(given the understanding that likely only a court could decide this)

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Re: New Kickstart 3.9.1 68k on the way
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2014, 04:28:38 PM »
Quote from: olsen;779948
I may be wrong on this, since I didn't pay enough attention at the time, but I seem to remember that the settlement between Amiga, Inc. and Hyperion back in 2009 (?) gave Hyperion exclusive and permanent use of AmigaOS 3.1. This may not cover the rights of 3rd parties who provided CrossDOS, bru and the bitmap/outline fonts included on the Workbench, only those parts owned by Commodore.

My best guess is that Hyperion would be the party to ask for consent.



My problem here stems from numerous posts of this nature by those you indicate should be contacted with an idea/plan etc.

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Also, please no business advice.

We'll take our advice from people like Trevor, Matthew Leaman, Steven Solie (who came up with the "Hyperion Blog"), Jens S. from Individual, Michael from Cloanto etc. i.e. people and developers who have put their money where their mouth is or have actually contributed significantly to AmigaOS development.

Take a look at Trevor's recent Blog post and the picture he posted from the meeting in Brussels.

Those are the people that Hyperion management relies on for decision making.

And even if you think they are bad decisions, it is our money and we can spend it any way we want, yes, even on AmigaOS development.


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Anyone from outside your inner circle would have to think twice about offering advice or ideas if we are to take the owner's posts at his word, no?

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Re: New Kickstart 3.9.1 68k on the way
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2014, 05:28:18 PM »
Quote from: Thomas Richter;779956
I don't quite understand what you want to say here. (Neither would I consider myself part of an inner circle - Hyperion never asked me for advice, and if they had, you know what my advice on this would be.) The statement from the owners is certainly correct and justified. These are persons that know the market better than I do, persons I would also listen to for adivice, and its certainly the right of the right holders to do with their property and their money whatever they please.


I'll attempt to clarify.

Olaf said:

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Funny people such as Thomas and me, who were involved in updating previous operating system versions, haven't exactly unlearned how to do that, so there is an option to actually make profound changes to the operating system if this were called for.

This is all hypothetical, of course. It could be done if there were sufficient interest to back an AmigaOS rework if the current technology owner gave its consent, a plan were made, the time, manpower and funding could be found. None of this is impossible.



This might give the impression (after he clarified that he believed Hyperion was the one to contact) that such ideas might be discussed with Hyperion.
Whereas, we're really talking about Hyperion in terms of "consent", as mentioned.

It might be wise to discuss ideas with those on that "trusted" list and sell them on an idea, and then have them take the idea to Hyperion for the "consent" part.

Just consider this an option based on past experience. The average forum reader might not know to consider any option other than direct contact with the parent company in order to make a proposal.

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Re: New Kickstart 3.9.1 68k on the way
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2014, 05:56:23 PM »
Quote from: Thomas Richter;779964
Oh certainly, such ideas *should* be discussed. But as said, I don't count myself part of the circle Hyperion would listen to.


Heh. Well, the "trusted" list contains quite a number of names to choose from. Perhaps somewhere on that list is a "fit" for you.

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