CommodoreUSA Partners with Disney

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Well don't forget to sell your TV, the C=USA/Disney adds will be hitting shortly on the major networks.  Don't want you to gag on your dinner or anything.  :banana:

Will you be watching on your brand new Amiga IContain TV?

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I wonder what Steve Jobs thought if he has seen any documents regarding promotional deals(probably not, but let's imagine)...

"Hmmm, Commodore, from where do I remember this name?"

Most people recall the story of Apple after becoming very aware of Amiga, but here's something few people remember in regards to Apple:
"On April Fool's Day, 1976, Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs released the Apple I computer and started Apple Computers."

So perhaps the April 1 announcement was quite intentional.

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Hmmn a bunch of comments from people who are assuming the Amiga is "back" and the C64 is "back" who will probably be very disappointed when they find out that it's just the same as the Windows Pc they already have.

Doesn't really explain it to me, they are not bringing the Amiga back, the Amiga is/was a platform, the same as Windows/Unix/Mac/ST, this is a Windows platform machine with an Amiga badge.

So again, who are they aiming at?  PC users who want an 80s case?

It seemed that the original plan was strictly based on brand recognition, which Barry Altman made clear last year.
"Altman said that he is bringing back the name because "the *name Commodore and the Commodore Computer was the most popular computer of all times "even though a product has not been introduced in the last*almost*20 years the name itself has brand recognition that parallels and rivals the greatest in the industry." He said that Commodore has an 87% ranking."
source

Any venture will change/adapt over time, though, so I wouldn't be quick to conclude that any future view is quite the same. There are a lot of variables here...a lot.

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If the Commodore brand had such good ranking, why have half a dozen bigger companies (Escom, Tulip etc.) failed over the last 15 years?  Plus they were actually released in the 90s/early 00s when people still remembered Commodore as a brand.  Even closer to now, the Commodore Gaming PC rigs of 2007-2009 also failed.  Did he not use this very valuable research?

Yeahronimo and Tulip were literally at war the entire time, and I've written extensively about that history on AW.
You saw the result of the Amiga Inc. vs Hyperion war as well, and how that affected development, so you have here example of both past and present endeavors and why they end up the way they do.
Commodore Gaming...erm...you mean another one that claimed to be the "licensor", when they were proven not to be.
See the parallels here, as in "legalities"?
Add the quick withdrawal of C=USA from the idea of using AROS, strictly based on possible legal interference with business, and you might see they are trying to avoid the principal C=/clones pitfall of the past...legal shenanigans that could interfere with their right to succeed or fail on their on merits.

Now, as to why no immediate approach to the community. Well, they did, in respect to AROS, and I just commented about that.
Amiga OS and MorphOS...they've not seen a market there and have decided to launch off a proven brand name.
Again, this does not mean they don't have some inkling of a desire to put some of what you and I think of as "amigalike" or "amiga heritage" into their endeavor.
This just means that they HAD to start somewhere with a launch that makes sense from a financial standpoint.

This is just my opinion, viewing this from the outside mind you.

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True, the Commodore brand was jumping back and forth, but even before them Escom were selling Commodore branded PCs for a couple of years, in most of the high-street stores, they failed.  Heck, even Commodore couldn't shift Commodore branded PCs in the late 80s/early 90s, in-fact their move into PCs is often attributed as one of their financial disasters that eventually killed them.

If you couldn't market/sell Commodore PCs in 1988-1997 (when they were still a global mainstream player) I fail to see how you can in 2011, personally.

I see that Barry has answered to part of what I mentioned previously with "Many, many reasons why the other attempts failed: lack of funding, poor planning, misguided execution, market conditions, and most importantly, they were not me, and didn't have Leo."

The brand recognition of which you speak existing in those days could NOT be exploited for any purpose because of the legal shenanigans. That was the only point I was trying to make about the past. If you don't fully appreciate that, talk to anyone involved with C= or Tulip during that time.
Oh...being accused of insider trading in court didn't help either. Feel free to examine the assets of Asiarim which is still the same CEO as Yeahronimo as well, etc.
If you think the Amiga "ownership" saga is a sad tale, the C= story dwarfs it by comparison. Really.

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This is exactly what is planned. Mind you, C=USA would have NOTHING against Hyperion doing a x86 port(hell, they may even be prepared to pay for it) and selling it with C=USA Amigas. The ball is on Hyperion's court....

Blame A.Inc and Hyperion settlement on that.

Sorry to [snip] in order to tie these two ideas together.
But claiming the ball is on (in) Hyperion's court whilst implying there is something in the settlement that prevents such a thing from taking place is somewhat confusing.
If I'm misreading you, please clarify.

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I'm just saying it's up to Hyperion if they would like to join this adventure of not.

I'm sorry, but that's like saying it's my choice to cross the bridge and shake hands when there's a slight impediment in the way...such as no bridge.
See Amiga Inc. vs Hyperion VOF is this is unclear. Heh.

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No I stand behind my post.

post? (singular). Then who's been making all of these posts with your nick?

Anyway, I'm sure when he said "your site" he meant moobunny, where all good PR is accomplished.

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@Transition

Page hits for the term "Disney" other than the topic itself are getting very scarce.
On the bright side, however, you can just cut the last 5 or 10 pages and have enough material for a new Disney film.

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