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Re: Legal threats from Harald Frank
« on: February 21, 2003, 03:15:10 AM »
There are no words in the english language strong enough to express the level of contempt i feel for Harold Frank at this moment.

1) His trademark was NOT mentioned in that post. An entirely different product was!

2) This site is not a business developing competing software.

3) This site is not a business selling competing software.

4) This site is not pirateing anyones software or otherwise contributing to piracy in any way.

5) This site offers news and information and a forum for people to help each other and can not be held responsible for OTHER peoples decisions.

6) This site is an open forum for the public to gather and discuss items of common interest and debate thier merits. Harold Frank's product is open for debate as any product is.

7) Piss off and go threaten someone else. I'm posting a link in my personal web pages on Umilator and i don't give a flying {bleep} if anyone {bleep}  {bleep} well likes it or not. I invite the ENTIRE WORLD to come and read it and add links to the site in thier own home pages as well so everybody is informed it exists. And i don't even want the damned thing!

I'm sick as hell of this crap and it's about time it stopped. H&P's problems are with Bernie and his product NOT US or Amiga.org. There is no reason in the world we can't speak or talk of 'the evil application of satan' when we choose. If Harold Frank dosen't like us talking about any software in the world that HIS problem and he needs to take it up with the authors AND NOT US!

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Re: Legal threats from Harald Frank
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2003, 03:51:22 AM »
>Some people are just ####ed in the head!!!

Agreed. :)

>Anyway, I think it's obvious where I stand. Wayne, any plans, possible course of action? Does this guy have a legal leg to stand on?

No he dosen't. It's a move to intimidate because that's all he can do in this situation to keep some sort of grip on the market. Which by the way he has no rights to anymore since his contract with Bernie is now defucnt. H&P broke thier contract when Bernie invoked a clause to halt sales. H&P to this day continue to sell and thus have broken the contract. It is no longer a basis for any action and if anythiing Bernie has the right to sue H&P for continueing to pirate his work. And i hope to god he does. :)

The only reason HF did this was to end discussions about the competition by threatening Wayne. HF can probably take him to court and loose but only after making Wayne's life a miserable living hell in the process.

>I never knew people were not allowed to discuss trademarked products. That means MS could sue Amiga.org to stop us from talking about MS products? That seems pretty silly to me. Doesn't the freedom of speeh and expression protect us in this case? Please someone tell me I'm write!!!

Freedom of speach has nothing to do with it. He has to prove that Amiga.org is causeing his business damage by ALLOWING people to post on his own PRIVATE site. I don't think that is possible in any country under any legal system except communism and dictatorships. The only LAW here is Wayne as it's HIS personal site and subject to his own rules and not the wishes of anyone in the world including me, Harold or you. Get used to it. If H&P believe they are being misrepresented then i'm sure Wayne will ALLOW them to post a rebuttle but only at Wayne's discretion and nobody elses. :)

>Btw, what does Herald Frank do these days, other then demonstrating his unique ability at making new friends that is...

Who cares? :)

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Re: Legal threats from Harald Frank
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2003, 07:02:15 AM »
Give em hell Bernie! :) Glad to see you still alive and kicking.

Is there a copy of your contract(s) with H&P around somewhere? I'd like a look if possible. :) Anyway, i'd say as soon as they stopped paying you and kept selling after you invoked that clause that they were in breach. And that's good enough for any court.

As for Aorg, H&P don't have a leg to stand on. (thanks for the laugh though Harold. is your lawyer on vacation and you thought you'd do a little legal work on your own behalf?)

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Re: Legal threats from Harald Frank
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2003, 07:20:03 AM »
>The only parts I can think of that would need to be licensed are A) Haralds code, and B) the trademark.

Are you kidding, what trademark? :) H&P never registered a trademark for Amithilon so, they don't own it. :P

This is just as bad as that moron over at CUAUG claiming that he owns all links to anything Amiga related.

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