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Offline Hizoap

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Re: ELBOX New Spider device
« on: August 31, 2011, 10:44:15 PM »
Quote from: Piru;657038
So are these cards still rebadged NEC 720101 USB cards with a modified PCI ID? (They sell for $7 or so)
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Yes, thats right.

Quote from: stevee617;657100
Does this mean that any USB card using the NEC 720101 chipset will work? If so, I found USB cards with this chipset for even less at $4.98!


Yes, with an different subsystem id.  I see you have no signature, I do however. :)

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How do they change the PCI ID of the card? Jumper a few pins on the ASIC? Can someone  mod their own $4 board so as to not require software patches??


Atc24lc02 can easily be programmed, yes you can mod your own.

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@alexh

perhaps they reflash the small 8KB flash or eeprom chip. Depending on the chip model perhaps they update it using software (like uniflash) and they don“t need to modify anything of the hardware.


They did remove the atc, programmed it and soldered it back on, looks like they didn't have a test clip for easy programming.
But yes you can reflash it. I like .5... instead of .5..3

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We have banks and politicians to do that, no need for us to join in.

I'm a bit shocked to see some of the comments here to be honest. It's all well and good giving Elbox a hard time (and no, I am not in any way defending them), but surely with the wealth of coding skills among A.org members someone here could write a generic driver themselves rather than saying it's what Elbox "should" have done.


Why do it so difficult, serial eproms are easy to work with.
There are several low cost solutions for flashing 24 series, look on ebay. You can build a programmer for less then 20$.
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Re: ELBOX New Spider device
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2011, 06:30:00 PM »
Quote from: mboehmer_e3b;657428
They plugged the 5$ card into a PC, started the NEC supplied programming tool, changed the subsystem ID, removed the card and put the yellow sticker on.
The ATC chip can be reprogrammed by PCI accesses over the NEC chip. No need to start soldering. NEC provides all necessary information to registered users of their webpage.

Michael


No, they did not - at least not on the card I got.
I'm am sure Nec have a programming tool for these cards but Elbox did not use that software on all of the Spider 2 cards - maybe they did on some.
See my pictures.

Check out the solder work on my Spider 2 card. The serial eprom has been removed and they had some work done to the low voltage dropout regulator.
Look at the 'blob' at the tab (Vout) on the regulator not to speak of the work on C10.

Also, took a photo of an identical ebay card.
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