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Re: One unified OS for the future?
« on: November 21, 2014, 11:32:43 AM »
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Re: One unified OS for the future?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2014, 11:33:26 AM »
Quote from: Thomas Richter;777919
Ok, and why that? I.e. you are explaining the answer with the question. In particular, I want to understand the motivation why people buy into that.


When i first tried OS4 (and subsequently MorphOS) that was my reaction - frankly i couldn't see the appeal. Fewer applications, and not much patching (like i was expecting after OS3.x).
On top of that, no esoteric hardware to collect, and not much 'mystery' to exploring its capabilities - where's the 'Amiga' in plugging in a pci card, having rtg already available, and not having to sacrifice chickens or set cryptic env-vars and tooltypes?

 I went back to OS3.9 and Amiga hardware.

Eventually i realisedi was switching onthe a4000t less and less, until it didn't even get unpacked after a house move. A couple of minor issues never got resolved which made it even less fun, and i grew wary of powering up £2000+ worth of ageing equipment every time which could easily break down and be worth near-nothing.

I realised i wanted to continue using my Amigas, but without the headaches and the financial roulette wheel of ageing hardware already running near to its limit and still not-quite-achieving. With a csppc/a4000t/rtg/usb/etc...there was nothing left to upgrade.

MorphOS, released on the mac-mini, offered the ideal choice: fast OS, in active development, fast cheap hardware that is easily replaceable, no hardware mess to maintain/troubleshoot,maximum backwards compatibility (although inow use very few 68k apps anyway due to more recent, better quality, native replacements/versions), and a large overlap in the venn diagrams of user base.

One morething is that it's not just the OS and applications, but also the community that is a common between Amiga and MorphOS (and OS4.x). Most of the people who helped me get the most out of the Amiga are the same people who help get the most out of MorphOS.
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Re: One unified OS for the future?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2014, 01:16:52 PM »
That was just my personal experience, others no doubt have different motivations. :)

There's probably also an element of laziness, and or being a bit of a luddite: after investing so long getting to know Amiga operating systems, the thought of starting again with some Linux distro just doesn't appeal.
I'm just happier spending time messing with an amigalike system than i am with a nix, windows or mac one. I still feel that sense of achievement when i get something complex working on an amigalike system, which is lacking if i do the same under windows, etc (just a sense of relief that the tedium is over).

As per your comments, i also appreciate having a system i can configure to my own needs, which seems to be the opposite of the ms/apple philosophy where everything is hidden and done for you, or likely to reconfigure itself because it 'knows best'.

For me, MorphOS hits the spot: powerful enough hardware, most software needs covered (office suite would be nice), affordable, allows me to keep my hobbies without becoming a hoarder (no space for a dozen desktops these days) and as a bonus the hardware is modern enough (albeit on a poorly supported architecture) to run nix/osx if i need it. No Windows of course, but i can live with that.
Mac Mini G4 (1.5GHz, 64MB VRam, 1GB Ram): MorphOS 3.6
Powerbook 5.8 (15", 1.67GHz, 128MB VRam, 1GB Ram): MorphOS 3.8.

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