Regarding the naming of new A-eon systems

[Boot_WB]

Using numbers associated with the classic systems we all know, prefixed with the letter 'A' will just lead to confusion on the forums. This is completely retarded. I get that there's a want to pay tribute to the original systems, and that's fine, but the naming schema should easily reflect that these systems aren't classic machines because people are going to shorthand the names. Nobody's going to write out "AmigaOne A3000" if that's the official name. They're going to write "a3000". Prefix with the letter 'X' or come up with a different numbering scheme. When classic users are googling for info and support about classic machines, they shouldn't be pulling up posts about OS 4 kit that has nothing to do with what they're looking for.

Totally agree.

I have nothing against A-Eon wanting to promote their appreciation of, and background in, the classic Amiga this way - it's good marketing - but confusion with existing model numbers should be avoided at all costs.

Hell, x3000 x5000/20 and x5000/40 would do just fine.

x1, x3, x5 - they are supposed to be 'odd' computers after all

[Boot_WB]

How frustrating it must be for OS4 haters to see new HW coming using the name they cant. I dont see other reason for so much fuss about naming of a machine. Who cares, if you like it and have the money buy it, if not, forget it. Like some1 is going to listen to you anyway...

Oooh! "AmigaOne" - I'm so juh-healous, that I can't even just say 'jealous'.

Hyperion has the rights to nothing beyond the names AmigaOne and AmigaOS (and the boing ball).
That's the kind of aroogant and ill-informed post that makes me want to open a business reconditioning & selling Macs rebranded as the AmigaTwo line. Not that I expect it to create a sustainable business, but it would be funny watching Ben make legal threats with his remaining $2.15.

[Boot_WB]

Ok I can understand that but, do you buy a car because the brand owner is a nice guy or any other product ? I dont follow politics I just look at the product.

Actually, to some degree, yes.
For example, I won't use Elsevier services/producs due to their onoing (if now abstracted) links to the annual Arms Fair in the UK. I also won't spend any money on News International products (Sky, The Sun, etc) for many reasons, but you can boil that down to Rupert Murdoch being at the black heart of it all. Nor will I buy imported herbs, imported to the UK by air to keep it fresh - despite the fact that it grows like a fricking weed everywhere in the country.

Corporate responsibility is something that influences product choice in the real world.

Sadly, I continue to line the pockets of the tobacco barons, but it is high on my list. Equally sadly, I am addicted to the use of diesel for my business vehicle for which I see no practicable alternative at the mo.

[Boot_WB]

Please do so, maybe you will also make $2,15. Nothing ill-informed about my previous post, I just read all the stupid posts (like yours)

I probably deserved that, sorry for my earlier reaction.

and based on that I still think os4 haters cant stand that Hyperion can use Amiga name be it in AmigaONE, AmigaOS or whatever. Just to make it clear I like all Amiga like systems, classic, OS4, MOS and Aros and I cant understand why people have so much against OS4 and its boards. If its too expensive for you, keep using your MAC and dont hate the ones who can and want to buy X1000, X2000 or whatever. If OS4 is not as good as MOS, again keep using your MAC and dont hate the ones who use AmigaOS.

I think you misunderstand. I don't hate users or developers of any systems (my 'hate' list is actually very small: hate is counter-productive and harmful to both the individual and anyone around. Sadly I'm not a saint, so I do have anger rooted in emotional pain towards certain individuals (nothing to do with the Amiga community though) which I have yet to amortise).

I don't agree with the campaign of some people to use the word 'Amiga' as much as possible in relation to AmigaOS4 hardware in order to muddy the clear legal line between Amiga and AmigaOne.

AmigaOne != Amiga: they are two entirely seperate trademarks and brands.

Trademarks aside, let's look at the hardware: they are entirely different architectures, generations of hardware, and processor families, developed by entirely seperate companies, built on entirely different principles and concepts, and with 0 (zero) personnel carried over from the Amiga days to the AmigaOne days.

[Boot_WB]

+1 to all that.

RE: Diesel.  Have you tried chip fat? I believe it works very well as an alternative.

Are you trying to say something about Northerners?

I have thought about it, but it adds hours onto my week setting up contacts, getting the crap home, setting up a filtration system/storage/etc.

I'll probably experiment with it in a couple of years when I've settled into the routine a bit more, but at the moment running a home, dog, business and relationship is as many full-time jobs as I can manage.

[Boot_WB]

Funnily, it was mint from Israel in Tesco which tipped the boat for me.

Mint is a persavive weed which requires hard work to keep its growth iunder control. Why the hell Tesco sees fit to fly it in from halfway across the world.. well, this is what happens when profit is the sole motivator for corporate decision making.

[Boot_WB]

My (unmissed) hometown of Blackburn once held the dubious honour of being the Chip Pan Fire Capital of the UK. :lol:

I wonder if that was the source of the Beatle's "Ten thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire"?

(Favourite Beatles song evah!)

[Boot_WB]

AmigaOS was/is the offcial name from 3.0 and up.

Hmmm. Me looks at documentation and disk boxes and sees:

Amiga OS 3.9
Amiga OS 3.5
Amiga OS version 3.1
Amiga OS version 3.0

No sign of this AmigaOS...

http://www.vesalia.de/pic/amigaos39cd.jpg

[Boot_WB]

3.5 shipped in a box, versions before that either came in a bag or a white leaflet, with a seal.

3.1 came in a box also (white cardboard, about 12" long, 5" wide, and 3" deep, containing manuals, disks, etc). I just don't have it anymore, and couldn't find a picture to link to.
From memory it certainly had "Amiga" in the newer typeface, but I think it may have just said Amiga v3.1 (with the v3.1 in a much smaller typeface).

Not that it matters at all in the scheme of things, it's just worth pointing out the distinction when people try to blur the distinct line between Amiga OS 3.x (developed for Amiga computers) and AmigaOS 4.x (developed for AmigaOne computers). :-)

@Nicholas

I'm pretty certain they also got the rights to "Amiga OS" - just not "Amiga" - which basically got kicked into the long grass wrt ever being used to name a computer running an Amiga-like operating system ever again.

[Boot_WB]

Aha! I think that's the one I had (although mine was minus the outer sleeve, so just the white box).