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Offline jkirk

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Re: Bastards!!!
« on: April 01, 2010, 07:38:48 PM »
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I just went through the update and SONY give you the option not to accept the update. They explain exactly what will happen if you accept the update and they warn you of the consequences of updating if you run LINUX on the PS3. So I don`t see how anyone can complain. Its a simple choice ... if you want to use the machine as an entertainment console then accept, cus without it you will not be able to log into the Playstation Network... and play games that sychronise trophies such as Bayonetta.... OR if you want to run daisy chain LINUX etc then dont agree. Your not forced to agree to the update. ITS NOT AUTOMATIC.

I just agreed cus I really want to use the full potential of my PS3 as a games console. Others can use it as they please. You could always get a SLIM for games and a FAT for LINUX. Really don`t see what the name calling is all about.

really i don't believe you just suggested buying a ps3 again to keep the functionality intact on your current ps3? i mean come on just because you have no issue losing that functionality don't make everyone like that. and not everyone can afford to keep buying a ps3 to maintain the status quo.

honestly they could have created separate firmware for each model. this would make the current iteration more secure while leaving the function in place for the people that want/ need it.

imagine buying a laptop and the company making it disabled the dvd drive for watching movies on a mandatory bios update. would you be just as passive about that? would you admit the laptop wasn't made to watch dvds suck it up and go buy a real dvd player?

@the whiner complainers

i understand where you are coming from. personally i have no use for consoles in general. but at least attempt to see it from the other side too.
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Re: Bastards!!!
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2010, 09:01:53 PM »
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Yes I am.... I don't agree that the SLIM and the FAT should be treated any differently. SONY are simply updating the machine to perform no doubt as a more stable and safe product in line with the SLIM. It is for SONY to decide how they best do this, and buying the machine to utilise their PlayStation Network they can impose how the software runs. The fact that you want to run the PS3 outside of the Playstation Network is your choice. Its free so whats the big deal. If you don`t want PS3 Network functionality then don`t update.. it is a simple as that. But why on earth would you lumber the 99 percent of all PS3 gamers with a fix to satisfy a group of people that may ' may ' just compromise the gamiing OS. Don`t get it. And yes go get another PS3 SLIM, or Elite if you are unhappy and wanna use the PS3 Network but keep LINUX... Its only about trophy synchronisation generally and the modern gaming requirements. My gaming is, has, will always be very important to me as it is to loads of folk. LINUX however, can be run on anything, as I understand. Never use it.

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PS: SONY had big problems on February 28th with the FAT only model cus of the variations betwen the two machines. If this fixes problems like that then thank goodness.
no sony had big problems because they screwed up. They are just using things like that to make people want to roll over. just like sony also tried to use piracy to justify adding rootkits to their audio cds. or did you forget that. rootkits that btw caused security holes to be opened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_CD_copy_protection_scandal
sony is out to protect sony not gamers, not consumers, not you.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2010, 09:05:10 PM by jkirk »
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Re: Bastards!!!
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 11:00:49 AM »
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why bother suing over the lack of using a free OS?

if you bought the PS3 specifically for Linux, uhhh.....
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
get a computer, do the Linuxing there.  Shame on you for buying an "all in one" mediacenterthing without intending to play games on it!


You should try the games!  I hear they're pretty great.

uhh still stuck on that huh? if the ps3 was bought specifically for linux they wouldn't bother upgrading the firmware. if the firmware wasn't upgraded this wouldn't be an issue. however since this is not what it was specifically bought for, there is an issue that an advertised function has been removed.

just because you don't need this function does not make it a moot point.
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Re: Bastards!!!
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2010, 12:58:55 PM »
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I think you're talking about something else.

Im talking about if the person complaining bought the PS3 *only* for linux, as that would be kind of a poor idea.

the point i am making tho is if someone bought the ps3 only for linux. they should have no issues since they won't have to upgrade the firmware.

the ones complaining wants to play games,watch a bd, and use linux. not necessarily at the same time.:lol:

aka: linux is not the goal but is definitely in the picture.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2010, 01:01:34 PM by jkirk »
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Re: Bastards!!!
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2010, 03:43:48 PM »
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MS must not win....

atm i have more respect for ms than sony.
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