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Offline ferrellsl

Re: Hyperion announces OS 3.1 update
« on: November 18, 2017, 07:55:20 AM »
Quote from: magnetic;833278
They dont have rights for "3.9" haage and parnter still retains them afaik


Rights extended to them by whom?  A long dead company?  Any agreements they had with a company or companies that are now out of business are null and void and I'm certain they were never extended a perpetual license, so stop spreading this crap.

OS3.x became abandoware years ago yet Cloanto kept distributing copies anyway....as have other dealers out there who thought they could make a quick buck by continuing to sell copies....and now Hyperion has jumped on the same bandwagon.  They have no more rights to OS3.x than anyone else...they just have an attorney who threatens to sue anyone who wants to sell copies.
 

Offline ferrellsl

Re: Hyperion announces OS 3.1 update
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2017, 03:45:20 PM »
Quote from: olsen;833283
Haage & Partner licensed or aquired code from third parties which is part of the AmigaOS 3.5/3.9 update. They also created code in house which is part of AmigaOS 3.5/3.9, and they also paid developers to create code for it. The company still owns this software and, to the best of my knowledge, has not licensed or sold it yet.

None of this specific code owned by Haage & Partner is tangled up with the Amiga International-licensed AmigaOS 3.1 code. Even if Haage & Partner wanted to, they could not "bake" a fully legally sanctioned AmigaOS 3.9 out of their properties and AmigaOS 3.1.

Yes, it sounds weird, because it is. This is the Amiga business, after all :(


Ah, that makes perfect sense.  So until there's a clear owner of OS3.1 and the IP associated with it, Haage & Partner can't release and distribute a full-blown update of OS3.9.  I'm not sure that this issue will ever get lined out.  There are just too many vultures fighting over the dead carcass of OS3.1 and they fail to realize that there isn't a significant amount of money to be made even if they gained said rights.  Even with the Vampire's popularity I would guess that there would be fewer than 100 buyers of a Vampire specific release of OS3.1.  Most Vampire owners already own a copy of OS3.1 or 3.9 and they're quite happy to just patch their existing copies as needed.

Dreaming of an Amiga revival where Vampires are being sold in the tens of thousands bundled with copies of OS3.1 licensed from Hyperion borders on the absurd, but delusional business plans run rampant in this hobby that encompasses dead hardware and dead operating systems....
 

Offline ferrellsl

Re: Hyperion announces OS 3.1 update
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2018, 10:34:26 PM »
Quote from: kolla;834632
Hyperion are all about OS3 now, they don't care much about OS4 anymore :)



They obviously didn't care about OS4 either based on it's current state after 15 years of nothing but band-aid patches to allow it to run on ever increasingly rare and expensive PPC CPUs.

Hyperion's only concern is how to squeeze more cash out of Amiga users....classic and NG.