79 available systems for MorphOS 3.5

[ferrellsl]

Wow, I can't believe so many people here are lauding the use of a backward OS on a whopping 73 systems that are so obsolete that it's laughable. Those systems are 8+ years out of date.  If you're looking for nostalgia, get a classic system or emulate using one of the UAE variants.  There's simply no reason to buy a system to run MorphOS or even OS4 for that matter.  None of the NG systems have a productivity suite or even a browser that is useful enough to read the news! You guys keep right on buying those MOS licenses and keep holding your breath while waiting for some useful applications.  Simply ridiculous.....

[ferrellsl]

While that might be true, it is currently the only option, I think, if you want to run MOS, AOS4.x is an other matter.


That is really so wrong, if you think this to honestly be true, then your information is outdated.

No, it isn't outdated.  I bought a PegII and a license for MOS back in 2008 and played with it for about 4 months and then bought OS4 for it as well.  I waited, and waited, and waited for a decent web browser or some useful productivity software to emerge but here we are 5 years later and it's the same story.  Sure, there have been some slight advances in OWB and bug riddled Timberwolf, but still nothing that anyone can use on a daily basis without lots of frustration.  I finally boxed up the entire lot and let it sit in my garage for a couple years and then finally sold it.  As for OS4 systems such as the X1000, it's the same story......"new" old hardware at an outrageous price.  An X1000 performs on the same level as systems from 2005-2007, so claiming that the situation is better for OS4 users in regard to new hardware is laughable.

[ferrellsl]

Maybe you should try to use MorphOS some time? At least before talking like that. Browser and other programs are closer to mainstream than ever before. I can do all the things I need with MorphOS today, I'm not waiting for anything, I enjoy.

With classic system / emulation you can't get as modern software as on MorphOS while having Amiga compatibility. And you can get MorphOS machine cheaper than classic system.

Computer HW got "fast enough" 8+ years ago. Heck, they still sell slower systems than my MorphOS machines even today (cheapest laptops, netbooks, RasPIs and other that kind of devices). My PC is older than my MorphOS machines and it's still fine for me too. My PS3 is almost as old as my MorphOS machines and it's still fine for me, and for many others too. Get real.

 
You obviously didn't read my earlier post.  I HAVE used MOS and OS4 on a PegII and my remarks still stand.

[ferrellsl]

Not that I want to get into an argument with you (again), as it would be pointless to exchange messages with someone so poorly informed.
But I have a perfectly good web browser and a word processor running on both my MorphOS systems (as well as several games).
This satisfies 90% of my computing needs.
So I'm not waiting.

"Those systems are 8+ years out of date."
No kidding?
You do realize you're on a web site that focuses on systems over 25 years old, don't you?

And to all those who intensely dislike Apple, I've always harbored malice toward Steve Jobs.
The guy's work was always severely overrated.
But then,  I don't use Apple hardware to solely run OSX.

And OSX is certainly no worse than Windows.

Well, for a web site that focuses on 25+ year old systems there's an awful lot of wasted talk about X1000s, SAMS, iBooks, etc....they're far younger than 25 years old....so your point is ridiculous.  So you can keep waiting (or not) and spending your cash on dead-end tech.  If that's how you'd prefer to spend your time and money and justify it as a "hobby", be my guest, but stop trying to convince me and others that there's a rational reason to do so.

[ferrellsl]

No they don't. By your own admission you haven't used MOS for five years.

Even if what you said was true, so what. We like fiddling with 25 year old hardware and modern clones of its operating system for our own pleasure.

Some like doing the same with old cars or train sets etc

If you don't enjoy the things this forum is designed to facilitate the discussion of then why do you visit and post? Serious question, I'm genuinely interested as to why.

5 years in Amiga land is actually just 2 weeks in real time......joke implied!  LOL!

Don't get me wrong, I DO enjoy this forum.  I'm just extremely frustrated at the lack of progress in the area of useful software and in the cost of new NG hardware.  An earlier post mentioned the Raspberry PI....I get his point, low-end tech at a very low cost, but he missed the other points of the PI.  You can run several different OSs that have a wealth of useful and powerful applications.  I'm just wondering why we can't have that from NG Amiga hardware.  Right now, I get my NG fix by using AROS and hope that it will continue.

[ferrellsl]

Sounds like your information and user experience is really outdated.

I BOUGHT my PegII in 2008.  I held onto it until October of 2011 before I finally sold it.  I would drag it out from time to see but it became painfully obvious that useful software wasn't coming anytime soon.  So my experience isn't as outdated as you imply.....less than 2 years.

Well, you might be willing to wait several years for a useful productivity suite for MOS, but most people who work for a living can't wait that long.  Yes, it's been 5 years and I'm still waiting.  It would be nice if there was a spreadsheet program for MOS or OS4 or something for presentations, but I'm certain it will be another 5 years and you guys will still be waiting.  How long would you suggest MOS and OS4 users continue to wait?  5 years, 10 years, etc...
A decent DVD/BD player would also be nice or USB support that isn't broken......USB has been a standard for well over 10 years and I never could get it to work properly under OS4 (still broken).  It would constantly corrupt whatever storage device I used.....oh, and don't get me started on printing.....printer support under MOS or OS4 is abysmal....and that hasn't changed either in 5 years...oh, and then there's Flash, java, etc....I could go on, but I won't.

[ferrellsl]

@Ferrellsl you do realize that a lot have happened in the last 5 years right?

I can't speak for MOS on this one, since I do not use it, but at least for AOS, there are a lot a productivity suites, both natively, through amiCygnix and also a lot have been ported with the help of QT.

So I have to ask you, what is it you need or lack?

It's been less than 5 years that I used my PegII. I BOUGHT it in 2008 and held onto it until October of 2011, so it's been less than 2 years since I used it.  It was a double-boot system with MOS and OS4 installed.  I paid $700 new for the PegII...and another $200 for MOS and if my memory serves me, another $200+ for OS4.  That's a pretty hefty investment only to find that I couldn't do any real work with it.  But I suppose that's cheap compared to an X1000.  My point to readers here is that you shouldn't expect an OS4 or MOS system to be in any way a replacement for mainstream systems, but unfortunately there are too many people here who would have you believe otherwise.  Some are delusional, some are just misinformed but others have an economic interest in OS4, MOS, and X1000 hardware.  I fell into the trap of believing some of the moderators on this board about how useful a MOS system would be and was disappointed.  I'm just saying caveat emptor to those thinking of taking the plunge.  Try AROS first.  It's free......


Oh, AmigCygnix is awesome.  I used it for several months but my PegII at 1Ghz was just too slow and it was also painful to always be importing/exporting Excel files from my work systems.

I was pleasantly surprise to see QT4 ported to OS4 and I hope it brings a wealth of badly needed apps to OS4 and hopefully to MOS as well, whenever someone gets around to porting it.  Things in Amiga-land move slowly, I'm just not patient enough nor imprudent enough to throw more money at either system right now.