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Offline ferrellsl

Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community
« on: December 21, 2011, 12:47:39 AM »
Quote from: Duce;672131
Natami folks would be shooting themselves in the foot getting involved with C-USA, in my opinion.  They don't need them, and C-USA would just be trying to leech onto some credibility.  

They have got this far by getting their hands dirty soldering and testing, and made a good name for themselves and have products upcoming people are really looking forward to.  Same goes for Mike and crew.

C-USA being involved would be a black mark on an otherwise good record for those guys, lol.


I could actually argue that things are the opposite.  CUSA has created and delivered several products.  The Natami team has been at it since around 2005 and they still haven't delivered anything to market.  So as far as credibility goes, I say that CUSA has it and Natami doesn't at this point.
 

Offline ferrellsl

Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 01:31:57 AM »
Quote from: Thorham;672136
But the Natami people are actually trying to make a new product from scratch, without any kind of serious money behind it (as far as I know). That's a lot more difficult then goofing around whith money in your pocket. After all, what kind of interesting products has CUSA delivered that actually have anything to do with Amiga at all?


No, the Natami team isn't making a new product from scratch.  They're taking existing classic Amiga technology and extending it thru the use of FPGA technology.  And they've been at it for nearly 7 years without anything to show a prospective buyer. As for what CUSA may deliver, that's the entire point of their survey.  Tell them what you want and see if they will deliver.  When it comes to delivering, at least they have a track record.  Obviously quite a few people have purchased their systems whether you like them or not. Natami hasn't delivered a thing yet.
 

Offline ferrellsl

Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2011, 02:12:32 AM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;672143
Why would you start with the Linux kernel if you don't want Linux? It's not like it's made of unicorn concentrate or something.


They have a track record of delivering 1. sticker brandings of  pre-existing products, and 2. other pre-existing products in a  custom case. When it comes to anything further off the beaten path than  that, they have no track record at all. Natami, on the other hand, has  not shipped a commercial product, but they have developed and  demonstrated real tech in a mostly-working state, which for the purposes  of a project like this is much, much more than CUSA can say.

I disagree.  The products that CUSA has delivered are real and it didn't take them 7 years.  The Natami team hasn't delivered a single product and they won't even provide a release date for anything they are developing.  Unfortunately you don't see CUSA's survey as an opportunity to develop something Amiga users might want.  All you want to do is complain.  You don't like CUSA.  We get it.  So why do you have to keep harping about it?  No one is forcing you to buy their products or participate in their survey but you seem to be obsessed with bashing them.  We just got rid of that troll Fanko and now you're doing a wonderful job of filling the vacuum he left behind.