Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: I don't need C64 anymore :D  (Read 2430 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline fishy_fiz

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2005
  • Posts: 1813
    • Show all replies
Re: I don't need C64 anymore :D
« on: March 24, 2013, 12:32:18 AM »
I cant recall with frodo, but there's a few sid libraries out there. Perhaps this is whats missing. Adding sound however uses considerably more grunt to a point that no 68k cpu will give full speed/framerate.

MagiC64 is the only c64 emulator that will give full speed with sound on a 68k amiga, although its compatibility, while reasonable, isnt as good as some. Overall the best choice for 68k amiga though.
Regardless of what you use however you'll encounter software that wont work. Accurate c64 emulation takes horsepower.
Point being dont throw away your c64 :)
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

Offline fishy_fiz

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2005
  • Posts: 1813
    • Show all replies
Re: I don't need C64 anymore :D
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2013, 01:23:36 AM »
Yep, and then some.

For accurate emulation+sound at least.

Much like the Amiga, the c64 isnt an easy machine to emulate.
MagiC64 can probably run (rough figure) %50-%60 of c64 software full speed/framerate with sound on a "fast" '060. Add another %15 for stuff that runs well, but with glitches.
So all up there's still some good c64 fun to be had on an amiga (Ive played some iO, Cabal, and some others on my 40 mhz '040 even), but there's going to be quite a bit of stuff that wont run well, or at all.

The emulators aiming for accuracy often recommend a 2ghz or thereabouts pc.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

Offline fishy_fiz

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2005
  • Posts: 1813
    • Show all replies
Re: I don't need C64 anymore :D
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2013, 01:55:56 AM »
I think you under-estimate the hardware in the c64 :)
Disabling sound surely does help a lot, but then you can be left with timing problems, making software either run inconsistently, or even incorrectly vs. having sound enabled.
C64 graphics are also more complex than it may appear. It's a lot harder to emulate than the hardware in a speccy or cpc. Hardware sprites, and character based modes + bitmap modes, plus a plethora of non-standard modes, etc. On top of this the memory management of the c64 is somewhat more (obfuscated) complex than other 8bit machines.

MagiC64 really is a very well programmed bit of software. Blazingly fast for what it achieves. Its about as good as its going to get on a 68k amiga for a balance of speed vs. accuracy.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

Offline fishy_fiz

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2005
  • Posts: 1813
    • Show all replies
Re: I don't need C64 anymore :D
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2013, 02:13:48 AM »
Im not "dishing" Frodo. It's a decent emulator. I even did an updated port some time ago.
The fact remains however that MagiC64 is, overall, the best c64 emulator for 68k. I dont say it as any sort of allegiance or other such nonsense, I say it because its true.

The storage space comment was a little left of field though :)
With some games taking 500meg to 1 gig (and more), even on a 68k amiga 20 gig is obviously not nearly enough unless all a person wants to do is play games using whdload.

Anyway, all this c64 talk has me wanting to play some c64 Cabal. Great game, much better than Amiga and arcade versions, and coincidently the 1st game I played on a c64 emulator on my amiga.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2013, 03:03:10 AM by fishy_fiz »
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.