It's "funny" though. To program I much prefer ocs/ecs/aga, and I like the idea of seeing what results can be obtained from such a limited source as the custom chipsets, and I enjoy lots of custom chipset games and so on, but for anything remotely serious and/or system friendly (including games that support it) RTG is soooo much better that theyre incomparable. Im not sure some people understand just what a drastic improvement an rtg card is.