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Re: ECS, AGA, Workbench? No I don't hate them.
« on: December 28, 2010, 11:06:36 AM »
I only read the original post, so I appologize if other people have covered similar points.....

Firstly, from one side of the coin, sure, what you say is true enough, but you seem to be completely disregarding the fact that generally people dont expect custom chipset based amigas to compete in certain areas. Some people (myself included) enjoy working within those limitations. It's a challenge to see what results can be obtained with an old system. Especially one as flexible as the Amiga. Not only that but a machine, regardless of how powerful it is, is only as productive as the person behind the helm, and as dated as most of it is, a lot of classic amiga software can obtain good results, and as quickly as machines with hundreds/thousands of times the raw power.

Personally, besides 68k based systems Im predominately an AROS guy. Im interested in both MOS and OS4.x, but I dont have the hardware anymore. Have been verging on buying a mac and a license for MOS, but havent gotten around to it yet. After a while of using AROS (for no reason other than availability in the beginning) it becomes about the journey as much as anything. All slightly off topic, but written for the point of backstory.
My AROS machine is a Core2duo @3.86ghz + 1 gig geforce9600 gt + 2 gig dual channel ddr2@1066 is, in Amiga terms quite a hefty machine. Even in terms of modern pcs it's only a few steps behind the modern grade. With AROS I have access to 2d + 3d acceleration, better video player, better web browsing,... typically more up to date features. Despite this however I couldnt refrain from also installing amithlon/os3.9 as AROS, as much as I like it and see it as the likely "future" of amiga simply doesnt offer me things I like that an os3.x based machine does. It's more powerful for me because I know amiblitz and other 68k development tools better than I know c/c++ and amiga native apis, despite only giving me 40-50% the raw speed, and me having to use a much weaker video card (4 meg matrox g200 pci vs  1024 meg gf 9600gt pci express).

And perhaps a little ironically, I still find myself wishing I had a classic amiga instead as amithlon, while very good, still doesnt offer me the complete functionality of a real 68k amiga.

Anyway, I guess if there's a point it's just re-itterating, with a real example or 2, that it's not always about raw power and modern features.
Somewhat ironic though dont you think that a person using a 2nd hand mac, quite behind the times is having problems with people enjoying thier own old computers ?
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Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: ECS, AGA, Workbench? No I don't hate them.
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 12:12:48 PM »
Quote from: Hattig;602397
It's 2010 Iggy, of course something released in 1992 is going to be out of date.

This thread is totally stupid.


We dont want none of yoor kind,.... damned "logicals" thinks thems can come in and wreck a perfectly good rant  ;)
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: ECS, AGA, Workbench? No I don't hate them.
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2010, 05:33:12 PM »
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Hey, I want at least few of you to approve (or disapprove), but I'd like to go off target a bit a re-address that issue on the initital power of the PCs X86 processors (the8088 & 8086) vs. processors in alternative systems.
I think people opinion of X86 is clearly influenced by their later generations and I'd like to make a couple points, but I don't want to ponificate w/o general concensus.


Actually, I'd have to say the opposite. Some people still dislike/mock/whatever x86 cpus based on how they were back in the days when Amiga was competitive. To this day it's not uncommon for people to look down on x86 cpus based on the fact the 16 bit versions (pre 386) were inferior to 680x0 cpus in the mid 80's. Heck, Ive even seen some people convinced that the x1000's pa6t and successors will be competitive, or even superior to current x86 cpus (not sure if that's funny or sad really :-))
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.