Amiga vs PC

[fishy_fiz]

Sheesh, what is it with some of you people.... never learned basic manners or courteousies? Also to those who seem to be driven to point out amigas shortcomings,... you do realise that most people are aware of these "problems" don't you?  Some people simply dont care and enjoy what the Amiga gives them.... I read over and over again posts by people who seem to think theyre enlightening people,... too arrogant to realise that theyre not the only ones who know what it is they point out.
I understand that this thread is a comparitive thing, so in some ways is probably the place for comparisons, but the tone and attitude some people here take based on things they "know" is quite childish and rude... ever heard of the concept of discussing things without resorting to stupidity ?  I wont name people, but I suspect those who are responsible already know it, so it's not necessary.

Rant aside, I like Amiga OS,.... knowing the system inside out and being able to easily customise it to my hearts content. Simple, effective, user friendly, fun software is sometimes a better option than needlessly complicated software. I'll personally use the right tool for a job, be it on Amiga, Windows, or other options..... I'll happily be content just being content without the need to complain about shortcomings of software I dont use..... each to thier own though.

[fishy_fiz]

Each to thier own, and it's sort of off topic, but has been mentioned a few times within the thread..... anyway, I just wanted to disagree about linux being more fun and/or having more "soul" than Windows. Linux feels more mechanical and personality barren than any other OS Ive used.... having said that Ive only used Ubuntu (yuck), Madriva (my fav. from what Ive tried), and Fedora Core as far as Linuxes go. Not to say it's not effective, I just find it completely bereft of any sort of personality. Windows (the OS itself, has always been software I enjoy on Windows) for me started being fun once I started playing with Nlite.... I currently have XP Pro + SP3 installed and its roughly 150meg total,... Windows, program files folder, etc, while retaining everything needed (yet to find software that doesnt work (including recent games)).... was quite fun to see how much it can be stripped without losing functionality, sort of the opposite to OS3.x (the end results of enhancing os3.x to a XP+SP3 level of usability arent too dissimilar in size). System now boots in literally 5 seconds after bios post.... makes a very nice host for a dedicated emultor machines/media centre/etc.

[fishy_fiz]

It's became quite apparent from this thread, that a lot of the folk posting in it are obviously too young to understand or so lost in their own little world of trying to convince themselves that, they are right and everybody else is wrong or are even able to comprehend just what the true meaning and whole experience using a home computer should really mean.

It's nothing to do with quoting the best specs you can google, or trying to make yourself look smart and clever by saying X chip can do this and Y board can do that or you'd need a quadzillion transistors running at X amount of Mhz to make this do that.

If that's your idea of fun and enjoyment from using a home computer, then my friend sadly you haven't even lived.

If you care to read my blog you will find my last word on this subject, its not a putdown of anyones opinions or choice, it's merely an observation and an opinion on what I feel about something that a whole generation of computer users has missed out on.

My Blog- Amiga Vs PC... A Final Thought
http://www.amiga.org/forums/blog.php?b=203

Cheers :drink:

Franko

While I agree with the crux of your post, do you not see the hypocricy in what you write ?  On one hand youre saying a person should enjoy whatever it is they like about computers, and in the same breath are telling people that if they enjoy computers for "X" reason theyre not living. Some people are interested in the technological side of computers, talk of speed, etc. isn't always a big dick contest. I started my computer hobby in the late 70's / early 80's and it's been a fun ride. While some aspects of yesteryears computers are great the same can be said of todays machines, it's all down to the user as to what they enjoy. So many people seem stuck on one or the other, why the heck not both ?

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@Arkhan
Im sure (well hope) you're a decent person in real life, but are you aware how ridiculous and pompous you sound right now ? Make no mistake here, you're embarassing yourself.

[fishy_fiz]

Actually Pixar use a combination of Windows, Mac, and Linux. A quick glance around thier website shows that. The link provided is more than 7 years old. Linux is probably the least prominent of the OSes they use if thier website is any indication.

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@runequester

There's links on pretty much every bit of software they mention using/developing that has a "tech specs" link.

[fishy_fiz]

"Anyway when home users start saying things like they need 8 cores and 16 GB ram, the PC industry upgrade con is complete.

Depends on a users needs/wants. Many people these days use virtualisation to run multiple OSes concurrently. A lot of users also are interested in 3d rendering (as has always been the case) and other image processing. Although Im not a fan, I do have to use it sometimes, and something like Photoshop can use use gigs of memory alone when dealing with multiple hires textures over many layers. Real time sound processing can also be resource hungry when working with high quality sound. Then there's the more obvious ones like gaming which can use as many resources as a user can throw at it.... so back to your quote, need, no, take advantage of, absolutely. Also your link is 2 1/2 years old, 64bit computing is somewhat more mature these days. As for your references to the athlon x2 5000+, many people would consider that obsolete these days and it's hardly the best machine to test extreme scenarios with (32bit vs. 64bit). I understand what you're saying, and for some people you have a point, however for some your ideas are way off base.

[fishy_fiz]

No, you would be crying, I'd be looking for something more interesting to do than online wanking with a group of anonymous strangers who are the nearest thing to a group of friends I can insinuate myself into.

Damn, say what you want about me from here on friend, I'm not going to get drawn further into a flamefest with someone who is clearly not interested in intelligent discussion of any kind.

/thread interest

Haha, that's funny. Not in a "haha" funny way though.... one sentence of absolute trite (who are you to dictate what computer entertainment people enjoy?) followed by a claim of a lack of interest in non intelligent conversation.

[fishy_fiz]

In response to those droning on about lack of backwards compatibility of 64bit oses on modern hardware,... how is this different to *any* new hardware/software combo? Even the modern versions of amiga os arent completely backwards compatible with its existing software base. PS3/xb360/amiga/mac/pc,... all require a form of emulation to be completely compatible with the back catalogue.... time moves on and things change.