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Offline fishy_fiz

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Re: Where to find Birdie?
« on: January 12, 2010, 02:35:24 AM »
Do you have it added to your startup-sequence/user-startup ? It needs to be there (and placed correctly) with correct arguements following, otherwise you'll need to manually launch it everytime. By the way if you're an rtg system with '060 (or higher speed(ie. emulated)) I recommend using AFA_OS instead. It's skinning system is more flexible and it also adds other functionality too (anti aliased fonts, 32bit png icons, faster icons, zune, etc.).

p.s. Startup sequence and user startup rock. You just need to understand amigaos a little to use it properly. Also, WBStartup is handy, but not half as flexible. Birdie is a command line program, thats why you need to add arguements and why you cant just place it in WBStartup.
Startup-sequence and user-startup are very simple and easy to use, no other system lets you so easily customise your system. And for the record, yes even Mac OS, etc need to be told where everything is, it just hide it from the user unless they care to look for it. Personally I like having complete control over my computer and not have it assume Im stupid.
As for birdie if you want your arguements for birdie, just check open up the birdie file in env and it'll give them to you. Basically though its a 3rd party system hack, if you want to use things like that then you need to learn AmigaOS a little. Whinging because of your lack of knowledge isnt the best way to get help.
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Re: Where to find Birdie?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2010, 03:13:25 AM »
Just a thought, but have you considered using Amikit ? If youre new to AmigaOS something like that might be of interest to you, unless of course youre enjoying building your system from a basic install (a fun, but sometimes tedious hobby of mine). Amikit also gives a good example of how AFA_OS can enhance the look of a system.

http://amikit.amiga.sk/screenshots.htm

If it's not for you and you want to use birdie still however just let me know and I'll run you through birdie step by step.
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Re: Where to find Birdie?
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2010, 12:06:37 PM »
So do you actually want help with birdie or not ? I offered to run you through it step by step, but you continue to just judge based on how it does things differently to what youre familiar with. Birdie is quite a big hack, and in no way shape or form a library. If it was a library it'd just go in libs. It's a hack, and a command line driven one, and as such it fits quite comfortbly in C. Sure the end result of using birdie is a nice pattern, but to achieve that result on a system that hasnt been officially updated in nearly 2 decades, as has been the case in this time its users came up with thier own methods to enhance the system. Because of this there are no set rules, not everything has a nice installer or co-operates without a little bit of experimenting. In the case of things like birdie, visual prefs, afa_os they actually patch some fairly low level stuff sometimes so care has to be taken. Amiga OS itself is very clear to understand and things always work as they should, it just sometimes takes a little effort to find out how homebrew/3rd party software works (which has nothing to do with the OS). Again, I offer my help. You couldve had it fixed by now if you didnt keep comparing the way Amiga OS and what youre used to. Theyre different OSes, so why should they behave exactly the same ?
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.