Philosophical question related to AROS vs OS4

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Just for the record, Icaros does not contain the upcoming UAE intergration. It does have something akin to gluae, etc., and is effective enough, but it's not the same thing. With the "real" (for lack of a better word) intergration things like screenswitching between AROS and AOS apps, AROS menus for 68k software, 68k apps in aros windows/screens, launching AOS apps from AROS Wanderer or shell (and vice-versa) and a whole lot more is available that isnt available through amibridge (Icaros'es makeshift/temproary solution), or gluae, etc. It isnt as seemless as MOS or OS4.x 68k emulation, but the end results are similar, albiet a different way of achieving this  (although 68k software will be more compatible and run faster on AROSes intergration method). Try running AGA software on an a1/sam/peg2/etc. using UAE. It's very slow to the point of being unusable for the majority of software, even for "stock" aga software. Dont even bother with something like Breathless, alienbreed3d, etc., even on a Mac Mini.

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Sure, but that wasnt the question. Also after a while extra performance becomes redundant for some things, so while Winuae will be faster than other UAEs, for things using custom chipset an user wont notice it if you give a system enough raw grunt (even the heaviest of aga games/demos appear to run more or less identically on both my Windows machine running Winuae (c2d@4.1ghz) and my AROS machine using e-uae (c2d@3.86ghz using only one core).

[fishy_fiz]

I dont know. That's up to the j-uae author I guess. It's his work Hopefully though it wont be too far away, I'm just now getting my hands on latest build (non public) and am about to test it out.

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@Klx300r
Sam version of AROS is getting some work done on it at the moment actually. I dont have one so I cant comment too much, but it appears it's getting some pretty heavy loving at the moment. As for printing, this is unfortunately one of the biggest pieces missing in AROS left. My printing needs are few and far between (apart from printing tech. manuals) so I dont follow this stuff a lot, but Im lead to believe half the pieces are in place, but not enough to actually print anything yet.

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Huh ? Who was competeing ? I was simply saying that after a while raw speed becomes redundant for custom chipset stuff, citing my personal use of winuae vs. aros+uae and the systems I run them on. There were absolutely no, "my computer is faster than your computer" comments at all. If anything you're the one who's closest to doing such nonesense with your "I dont respect anyone who uses less than an i7" rubbish. By the way, a highly clocked core2 is faster than a standard i7, which must be confusing for you if youre going to make such claims ?

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@Manu
Actually it's apps Im looking forward to using rather than games when 68k/uae intergration is complete. Being able to continue using old favorite apps on a modern hardware platform is one of the reasons I use AROS. The amiga charm was in its software just as much as the OS and/or hardware. No other amiga like system (os4.x/mos/aros) is likely to ever see the quality (and just plain fun) software that the classics had. Graphics software (aros has next to none, lunapaint was promising, but too immature to use, grafx2 has bugs that stop it being useful, no 3d rendering software (yet) apart from the powerful, but cumbersome (3d rendering in a shell ? no thanks) Povray), audio software is next to non existant apart from a few trackers, little in the way of development software. I could go on and on. Having access to os3.x's vast library of software is what will keep me with AROS. If it wasnt for that Id stick with Amithlon.