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Re: Amiga OS 4 should be ported over to the xx86.
« on: September 22, 2006, 03:45:55 PM »
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What does PPC architecture offer, apart from some vague "spiritual" heredity to the 680x0 of yore?

The possibility to build a custom machine, which is not yet another x86 mobo which has already its load of OSes.

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Re: Amiga OS 4 should be ported over to the xx86.
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2006, 05:09:07 PM »
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So they bought a generic third party PPC mobo instead? Someone needs a sign, real bad like.

It's still a custom machine, if compared to the common x86 boards.

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Re: Amiga OS 4 should be ported over to the xx86.
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2006, 07:14:44 PM »
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You say custom like its a good thing.

How so?

Of course everyone has their own tastes and preferences. I have always liked the idea of "custom" (i.e. with a high, or total degree of compatibility, not reached only by software drivers) computers as they make me, as an owner, fell more part of a community (same hardware, easier to get advice on hardware problems), hardware banging becomes a possibility, and last but not least I become much easier attached to them. Also, a custom machine with AmigaOs is more similar to the concept of the original Amigas. I have found the A1 (and the Pegasos even more) to be an acceptable balance between a custom machine and one using off-the-shelf components, required by economies of scale. Others disagree, saying that's too much similar to a PC, it depends to what you'd find acceptable and what not.

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Re: Amiga OS 4 should be ported over to the xx86.
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2006, 07:17:22 PM »
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Different isn't good if your product is a non existent.

Well, tomorrow I'll see one of those products, and I hope they'll manage to market it with OS4.

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Re: Amiga OS 4 should be ported over to the xx86.
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2006, 08:00:55 PM »
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The choiche not to support a X86 technology only because it's Intel and we don't like Intel, I wanna to be different blablabla was the final word on the death of Amiga.

I don't think that way to be the reason to stick to PPC , and I think too that's a childish reason.

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Infact today in Amiga world (the world of Hyperion, Eyetech etc.) I don't find neither passion, intuition or genius. The greatest are watching us: the people at PARC, Woz, the creators of MAC, the original Amiga team, the MIT hackers in the 60's not these bunch of IT rookies...

I couldn't find any other reason for Hyperion to develop an operating system with so small possibilities of income than because of passion.

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And some of you are really slave of a name? of a computer?

I'm not. I have my limits too, when deciding to support or not a platform.

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Jay Miner is surely smiling now, I wish I could heard his opinion on this right now.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, and I shouldn't have to agree to his opinion even if he's one of the "fathers" of the Amiga.

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Re: Amiga OS 4 should be ported over to the xx86.
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2006, 08:09:08 PM »
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It was an excellent idea at the time when tech market was the wild wild west era, and a creative individuals could carve out an empire from the beginnings of a house garage. Eye popping gaming capabilities had to be created that was affordable. Hence, the Amiga was born. Today, if you want to revisit the wild wild west, you can either take a flight to your favorite watering hole or take the Interstate Highway. If you think you can get there by horse and wagon, be prepared to meet certain traffic laws, enviromental laws and certain death from a auto accident. Until you can create a time machine, live for today, not the past.

Using your own comparison, personally I'm not seeking for the wild wild west, rather the excitement of that era. It won't be the excitement for new discoveries, but rather n excitement by using a computer which I like.

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Sadly, Eyetech already did that with the A1 which was a generic (third party no less) mobo that happen to sport a PPC CPU (plus buggy chipset) and a boingball logo.

... and a OS specifically made for it.

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The only difference between a A1 and x86 mobo, the x86 was a franction of the price, the chipsets worked with common obtained additions (aka RAM) and warranties are usually honored.  So why don't you call old Allen up, tell him you got the perfect business model for him.  He'll love it!

You're forgetting at least one other difference: the fact that we have now a single motherboard set as standard with its own OS, and not just an OS with a very poor support for the vast array of hardware in the x86 market. Isn't this a difference, too?

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