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Re: Memory Protection Again
« on: April 01, 2008, 12:44:04 PM »
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bloodline wrote:

Actually I'm a bit of an Apple fan... and I don't consider anything pre MacOSX to be MacOS :-D :lol: But then I've only ever really used and owned OSX based Macs.


Biggun has a point though, as soon as we add MP, we essentially have a new operating system... in much the same way as OSX isn't the same OS as System x.x


But users don't dwell in the OS internals :)

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If we want MP, we will need to sandbox all the old apps... in the same way Apple sandboxed Classic apps in OSX :-)


I agree, it's the only way to remain truely compatible while freeing the OS from stone age technology.

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* That AMIGA OS does not require memory protection gives it a VERY BIG speed boost.


What is the performance boost useful for when you will *not* use it for anything meaninful when slightest bug in any running task can destroy, say, the CD/DVD I was burning. Now it's (the CD/DVD) just useless and intended for the garbage can, and I'm now loading XP to do it the *safe* way, sheesh!


Yeah, trouble is I agree with both of you here! :crazy:


Well one either trades off safety or speed, I do the latter since I'm perfectly sane :-P

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Well lets keep all replies in this thread now :-)


Sure thing :)
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Re: Memory Protection Again
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2008, 01:56:17 PM »
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bloodline wrote:

AmigaOS users do... it's all we have left! :-D


It's sad the day *users* start making out with the corpse :violin:

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Woohoo! ~7800 posts and finally, my own thread :-)


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Re: Memory Protection Again
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2008, 01:08:44 AM »
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Fats wrote:

People often don't make a distinction between memory protection and virtual/private address spaces.


Don't be so sure :)

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hardlink wrote:

, while the Amiga has gotten more fun!


Loosing data once every x minutes cannot be fun (?), unless one only uses the OS as a single-tasking one, that is only run one app at any given moment 8-)
Yet still, the previous app might have done something nasty, so I change it to: run one app and reboot before the next. :hammer:
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Re: Memory Protection Again
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2008, 09:46:15 PM »
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warpdesign wrote:

And what do we want ? Being able to run transparently IBrowse which only handles tables, or FireFox in a new clean box ?

I don't get why people are so attached to running software from *stone*! Emulators/Sandboxes are there for that...


Kronos gave an enough descriptive answer that I don't see any reason to duplicate.

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There's no question of program that asks for memory protection... That's pure nonsense and loss of time...


I did not understand this part, could you be alittle more clear ?
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Re: Memory Protection Again
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2008, 10:09:02 PM »
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stefcep2 wrote:

Fortunately many good programmers learned to program well enough that Amiga crashes are less common the win98se crashes (in my experience having spent years using both)
but far more common than winxppro (lots of individual program crashes but NOT ONE system crash in 18 months)


Well even if many amiga programmers made less buggy apps there were/are always bugs to be found, those cannot always be detected by debugging/enforcer, and I'm sure you know why, but I don't have any clue regardig Win9x series, almost no experience with'em, and as far as I have understood people seem to regard it unstable and very volnurable (single user).
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