Most Amiga like experience on modern hardware

[smerf]

@tclay9214,

OK

Here I go to flame city again, but I likes it.

First I agree with bloodline, Aros looks the most promising if you like modern day equipment, but if you like old equipment, that you could possibly find at an old yard sale, for about $10 than MorphOS is for you.

Ok, I will eat my words saying I wouldn't take a Mac it they gave it to me, because I just bought one at a yard sale for $10, I possibly could got it for $5 dollars if I bargained more for it.

Now for the expensive part, buying MorphOS, is it worth 79 euro's or $99, Ubuntu is free, Windows 8 I heard will be $49 for those that have Windows 7, since I have been a regular customer with Cloanto's Amiga Forever, I believe if I remember correctly I paid $29 for AF2012, and AROS is free and uses modern day equipment.

After trying MorphOS for the past 2 days I found exactly like I thought, it has some use, like if you like the internet, OWB works, and it also plays Youtube videos. So that makes it one step above the original Amiga. As of yet I haven't figured out how to get an adf file to load, (Cloantos Amiga Forever loads them right up for did I say $29, and with MorphOS I have to jump through hoops for $99).

OK you wanted to know what system was best to run Amiga Stuff, well the Amiga does pretty good but to run some software I have to use degrader, switch to pal or NTSC, sometimes shut down memory, or take off the external drive. Now that is with an original Amiga. With Cloanto's Amiga Forever, I click on the adf file and away I go, if I do it right it will put up four disk drives and if the game uses four disks I don't have to worry about eject and reload, if I did it wrong then I have to insert the next disk just like on a single drive Amiga.

What I am trying to say is that Cloanto's Amiga Forever is better than an Amiga. Now if I had to measure them in order they would wind up in the following order.

1. Cloanto's Amiga Forever 2012
2. Amiga 4000, or A1200
3. AROS (could never get internet working, but that is my Toshiba's fault)
4. MorphOS very nice internet package, needs work on loading adf programs, and needs more ummmph!!! before I will spend $99 for it. OH YEAH!! faster booter of any OS out there, very nice even faster than my Amiga 1200,  AND THAT IS QUICK!!!

Still MorphOS running on old hardware, that people are throwing out, and selling at yard sales. You need to modernize. Even Apple dumped PPC. (Sorry have to give a fair view)

AROS -- nice package, installed on my Toshiba laptop and ran nicely for the programs you gave with the package, I gave up when I saw no internet, but once again the Toshiba Satellite has an odd internet driver.

Winner is Cloanto's Amiga Forever for $29, will gladly pay for a UAE package that has been beefed up this well.

Well will have to go, loading in Ubuntu on my MAC mini, I would like to give thanks to my friend Rob, for bringing home my Mac mini, that I had bought, setting it up and showing me OS X tiger, which is a bit more useful than MorphOS, and AROS. He also put the blue tooth adapter into the back of the mini, so that I wouldn't have to touch anything associated with the Mac mini, the blue tooth adapter went to a PC keyboard and mouse, which works perfectly with the Mac mini so I don't have to touch it. Now if I could only figure out where that smell of rotten apples is coming from.

smerf

[smerf]

Hi,

@tclay9214,

Remember, if you are going to get an emulator on modern hardware, I would go with Cloanto's Amiga Forever, it runs good on your most up to date PC machines, gives the least trouble running adf software and is probably the best.

Other would say that MorphOS running on an old obsolete Mac is the best, but, you have to jump throught hoops playing a game on this system and as for being the "True Amiga" it is the biggest bunch of BS I have ever heard. The only thing it is, is a very poor emulation of the Amiga. As far a being a new Mac OS, I would go with that, it shows promise.
AROS another emulator for PC's, way behind Amiga Forever, but it shows promise for running on new modern up to date hardware unlike one OS that has you locked into a tired bunch of hardware that should have been buried a long time ago.

smerf

[smerf]

Hi,

@yester64,

[Personally, i would go for the antique hardware since emulators are only so good. This is especially true when you want to play games. Sometimes timing is an issue etc...]

Been with the Amiga since 2 weeks after it came out. To tell you the truth Amiga Forever is way better than any of my Amiga's. As far a timing, the only games both the Amiga and Amiga Forever have trouble with are the companies like Electronic Farts, which really banged the hardware. Case in point Arctic Fox, ran on Amiga OS 1.0 on the A1000, after that it wouldn't run on Amiga OS 1.1 up. So far using Amiga Forever, I have found very few programs it wouldn't run. Electronic Farts programs are the worst but then again that is why I own serveral different Amiga's.

smerf

[smerf]

Hi,

@ThEcrow,

The word emulation refers to:

    An ambition and effort to equal, excel or surpass another; to compete or rival with some degree of success, especially through imitation

    The low-level simulation of equipment or phenomena by artificial means, such as by software modeling. Note that simulation may also allow an abstract high-level model.

Computing

    Emulator, imitation of behavior of a computer or other electronic system with the help of another type of computer/system
    Video game console emulator, a program that allows a personal computer or video game console to emulate another video game console
    In-circuit emulator, a program used to emulate the processor in an embedded system, to aid in debugging
    Hardware emulation, the use of special purpose hardware to emulate the behavior of a yet-to-be-built system, with greater speed than pure software emulation
    Emulation for Logic Validation, used to emulate hardware in manufacturing automation


Could you please repeat that, after being trained by Commodore to sell Amiga systems, and explain their hardware and software assets as compared to other systems, and winning the Best Salesman Award, three years straight in the big city of San Francisco, I would say that my overall knowledge of the Amiga systems far surpasses your little tidbit knowledge of the Amiga systems. You still probably think that MorphOS running on a MAC is a real Amiga, when the truth be known is that it is a very sorry imatation brought to you by a bunch of Mac users, trying to make all Amiga users look like idiots.

And believe me some are, they have fallen for the lines of these Mac people who have tried to say that MorphOS is the next Amiga, now these guys should say the next great Amiga Emulator.

Even I who like and support Cloanto's Amiga Forever know that it is just a super Amiga Emulator. Is it an Amiga no - it is a winblows machine.

Is MorphOS an Emulator - yes it runs on an old obsolete Mac and is in the running for 2nd place on the Amiga Emulator contest

Is AROS an Emulator -- yes it is in the running for 2nd place in the Amiga Emulator contest, and probably has a better chance than MorphOS to win since it run on Modern Hardware.

Why do I choose "Cloanto's Amiga Forever" as first place Winner and Emulator -- quite simple, it comes with the Amiga OS roms, it automatically chooses the right machine for the program you are trying to run, and

For simple minded delusional people who think that all these emulators are the next best Amiga, it will probably work best for you.

Not only that but did I say it also emulates AROS, and you can play with the build your own Amiga system emulation by clicking on features that you want.

Oh did I mention that AF emulates AROS.

By the way just to let you know I support all the people programming these programs on the different machines, why?

Because I no longer have the patience to do something like that, (ok the knowledge) so keep on programming, who knows some day you may impress the old smerf, and I may actually give you a good review.

By the way did you know that MorphOS automaticallly sets up the internet protocal, it is one of the easiest internet setups next to Linux and it also runs Youtube quite well.

On AROS I have not yet made AROS find the internet, could be because they are still stuck emulating an old obsolete NIC card in thier old obsolete PC machine.

Got to give the devil its due.

smerf

[smerf]

Hi,

Thank you ral-clan,

I use Cloanto's Amiga Forever, and I think it is great. I just didn't want to go through all the hassle of finding the roms, then setting up the machines, etc. etc.

OK I am freaking lazy and I am also old, so I don't want the hassle anymore. After several years of programming, working 18 to 24 hour days (thats right as a programmer when you need to finish up a program to meet a deadline you may not get any sleep for 2 or three days, sort of defeats the cause) I just don't like hassles. I want something I can load up and run, and Cloanto's Amiga Forever is just that. An emulator that works and works great. Don't need any specific hardware, especially obsolete junk that I threw out 10 years ago, don't need the enemies fanboy computer, hate even touching it, that machine was really made for non computer users, find the switch and turn it on, (and on a Mac mini that is no easy chore, trying to find that on / off button with those thick bio hazard gloves on is pretty hard).

smerf

[smerf]

Equivocation

What you say, loosely speaking, is true, however, there is a distinct difference in how UAE and AROS/MorphOS/AmigaOS 4.1 "emulate" an Amiga. There's also a distinct difference between what you get from those two differing types of "emulation." You are taking the meaning in one sense, i.e. precise emulation of Amiga via software as superior while ignoring the advantages of API emulation on more advanced hardware.

Play nice.

Hi,

HUH!!!

smerf