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This project is certainly one that I am most interested in. If we are looking at a €500 to €700 price range then best start saving. Because once my bambino is born I won't have much miggy money to play with.

(My child will be shown what a true computer is too. I will start them with a C64 and then on to Amiga. Obviously once it hits like 1 year old I will start its journy. lol)

Hi,

Really hate to disappoint, but you can give your child a C64 or Amiga to show them what a good computer really is, but in true life, you are better off giving them a PC no matter how hard it hurts, it is the computer used by business's today and that is all there is to it.

Remember Microsoft has created billions of jobs out in the world for people trying to keep their sorry a$$ software running. If Amiga would have invested in it, billions of people would be working in the sewers, well maybe they still are, they are working for microsoft.

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it is a waste time as all the PPC based systems are. It is a fun thing and some would have liked to use it. Hobby, perhaps nostalgic to a certain degree. If we all would be "rational" we all would not be here :-).

Hi,

Give this man the sane trophy for today. Best words of wisdom said today.

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After years and years of teases,updates, changes, still no release date. I don't think it will ever happen. I was interested in this, until I realized I could simply remove windows shell and boot straight to os3.x with winuae.

That 3ghz pc cost me 30$ on ebay. And its here right now.

WOW!!!

A very close competitor to the words of wisdom for today, but $30 on ebay makes you a loser. Buying old obsolete computers, put you behind in the runnings to Olaf.

Sorry
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Do you have any imagination whatsoever when it comes to computers? :flak:

Hi,

@Kesa,

Imagination from a computers stand point is illogical.

If it looks archaic, acts archaic, and runs arcahic then it must be archaic.

Natami, does not compute

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I agree WinUAE is just an application, an incredible one, but not a physical product like Natami or Minimig so comparison is unfair.

There is nothing wrong with Natami except the price IMO. However you would need to invest something like $1,000,000 to do an FPGA Amiga from scratch to full mass production run as a product to get it well below the magic $100 price barrier. However would you quickly sell 50,000-100,000 units even then to recoup your initial investment from your first batch?

Maybe you might sell more if the machine could connect to something like Apple App store/XBLA/PSN Network style service to buy legally authorised copies of games to use on said machine for a similar price to MP3s on iTunes?

Cost of investment vs potential maximum sales is the issue.

HMMM!!!

Lets see, winuae running on a new Intel, with a new GPU graphics card, with sound chips that are the leading edge that can be used in recording studios are not physical enough, OK whatever you say, I really enjoy playing Megaball on winuae on my 2 year old 6 core computer, with a 6770 graphics card.

Some people just cannot accept the fact that old is old until they get old and cannot do a darn thing about it.

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I guess I had inferred that from your statement that Natami is a "waste of time" because it seemed like the obvious course of argument for why something that's a hobby project to scratch the itch of a handful of individuals in a hobbyist community is totally stupid and unjustified in existing, but if I was mistaken, please feel free to enlighten me on what your actual reasoning was.

Hi,

Cloanto's Amiga Forever, very cheap to buy, runs like an Amiga on Steroids, and hardware is very cheap to find.

Makes a lot of sense to me.

Besides it has lots of storage options.

Doesn't care if it is Pal or NTSC, 68000 or 68060, it just examines program, finds best emulation for running it and loads it up, simple for simple minded people like me.

and to top it off,

plays CD32 games, all on the same machine.

DUH!!!

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Offcourse they are just emulators, as they only mimik (emulate) the chips behaviour as seen from the outside. They might get closer to the orginal then UAE, but thats only due to the efford involved not to the method used.

A real reimplementation would be opening the chips and transfering them to the FPGA gate by gate.

A Minimig might have more emotinal value for you, but the underlying principle is still the same as with UAE.

HI,

Sorry OlafS3,

but you are now in 2nd place for words of wisdom for today.

Kronos, has just taken first place for the most sane person on Amiga.org.

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I think old people are ****, and should be shipped to some island.

LOL!!!


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No one told me Natami is an emulator. I thought it was real. Good thing I have an A1200 then. Paying a fortune for an emulator my seem a put off for me.

Hi,

Natami, is a very good replacement for old silicon that will eventually wear out and quit working after, in the case of the Amiga hardware, a hundred and fifty years (if you keep the batteries changed).

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