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Re: Why can't a windows machine do it.
« on: September 22, 2007, 03:36:09 AM »
Hi,

Just reading some of your posts about PC's verse Amiga

First thing I have to say is you all should get up to date on your computers. The Amiga was fine in its day, it was a fantastic computer, and today it still is a very viable product to fool around with.

But

Face it the Amiga today compared to the modern computers using  the new Intel dual core chips with a modern graphics card like the nvidia series, or ATI series is just plain slowwwww. Today the Amiga couldn't even think of playing games like Far Cry, Doom3 or Fear.

Face it the Amiga hardware is out of date, slow by todays comparisons, and is better laid to rest.

I will agree that windows especially Vista sucks. I use Ubuntu linux for my main OS, and Windows Vista for my games. I wouldn't trust Windows with any of my important stuff, since I am always trying new things with my computer. Linux has really stood the tests so far. It has only crashed once since I tried to put some program on it that it pointed out that it could be malicious software. Vista which I installed at the same time has crashed 4 times since I installed it. (so much for a more stable OS huh Billy boy) Anyhow I still use my Amiga 4000 and my Amiga 3000 because they have not crashed since the day I bought them, oops the 4000 crashed once because of operator error formating one of the five hard disks, the operator sort of formatted the wrong one. This doesn't mean that the Amiga is better, it just means that as far as stability the Amiga in my opinion is still number one. Face it as far as speed, the Amiga lags behind, it cannot play the games being brought out today.

Main computer: Gateway GT5238E, E6600 dual core, Graphics card nvidia 7600GT, dual layer dvd cd rom drive, 2 gig memory, with 250 gig sata drive. Main OS Ubuntu Linux, secondary OS Windows Vista on 250 gig ide drive.

Play around computer: Dell, Pentium 4, 2.2 gighz, with 1.5 gig memory, DVD rom drive and 40 gig hard drive. Main OS Kubuntu.

Old trustworthy computer: Amiga 4000, 40mhz, GVP Video (can't think of name, but like toaster, with only dual camera switcher.) Picasso II, 18 gig memory, SCSI card with 1.2 gig harddrive. Great for storing data and pictures.

Amiga 3000 stock

Amiga 1200, with ppc processor, 030 processor, and home made power supply.

CD32 with expansion

5 CD32 cards all work but just cards nothing else. Fun to experiment with.

Amiga 500

So any of you clowns wanting to argue about which computer is better give me a call.

Today sorry to say PC rule, Amigas are still fun and MACS wouldn't own one if you gave it to me.

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Re: Why can't a windows machine do it.
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2007, 03:11:17 PM »
Hi,

Lets get down to facts, the Amiga was designed at first as a super fast game machine that was converted to a computer, because of its superior chipset at the time (paula, agnes and gary) the kernel which is the same as a BIOS was very individualized to this computer. Its video, sound and disk access could be programmed to do things on their own. Also Jay  Miner used a different type of video so that you could use the Amiga on a TV, this led to sort of a round pixel instead of a square pixel (round pixels sort of blend in better when moving a video around the screen I think, I could be wrong on this one but I am to LAZY to dig through my old Amiga boxes to verify this) but, since most of you Amiga guys where crying about how smooth the Amiga seems, I loaded up the new Amiga Forever 2006 disk yesterday and played a few videos that they give you on the AF disk, I noticed that these movies really sucked video wise on the PC, whenever the sound got to complex they lagged, and the jaggies (due to square pixels) really ruined the delight of watching the movie. Then I pulled out my Amiga 4000 and loaded in the same movies, the sound and the video where immaculate even though the Amiga did not have the shading, and texturing as my PC nvidia card, now I did notice that the Amiga video seemed to play slower than the PC but the video and sound where still immaculate compared to the PC, now this could be because the PC was trying to emulate the Amiga OS, so windows played the video faster, but tore up the video due to pixelization (square pixels) even with anti alizing on. Then to test out my theory, I started to play some of the mpegs off of Aminet 18, I used my Ubuntu OS for this, the mpegs played super fast, and the video was super compared to the Amiga, but there was no sound on these. The point is the PC sound system is not as good as the Amiga, the PC stutters when there is a complex waveform, this is probably due to the Amiga sound chip. Then I loaded in beryl on the Ubuntu system. I watched a DVD movie on one screen, a mpeg movie on the other, played some chip tunes from Aminet on the other, and loaded in a web page on the other, beryl displays a cube on the screen that can be rotated as you turn the center wheel on the mouse, nothing slowed down, the sound didn't stutter, and everything looked great. My analysis is this Windows Vista sucks, Ubuntu is close to and just about as much fun as the Amiga, and the Amiga with the slower 68040 processor still reigns supreme for these features due to its special chip set. Now remember this PC computer I am using is a new intel E6600 running dual core at 1.86 ghz with a near top of the line nvidia card.
Now also I tried playing a dvd movie in the Amiga by using a converter to burn a movie to cd rom. Due to this transfomation the video was degraded some. The Amiga played the movie but stuttered and slowed down. Frame rate was slower probably due to CPU overload.

Now I don't usually use my Amiga anymore, except for my checking account and old games, it does have OS 3.9 on it, it is an A4000 with a 68040 card. It took me close to 3 hours to get the cd to play the movie due to setting up the movie player, maybe I am an idiot, but I felt like I was in an early stage of Linux trying to get full color out of the Picasso II card, and I never did do it, and B&W is not good especially for how much it stuttered. Will look into this matter more.

The Amiga's age is starting to show.

smerf
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