MOS: back to the future

[Alkemyst]

@Kronos
 
"IR ? Not on the board, but maybe on the vapor AMR."
 
there waas no need to add the vapor part to that comment as your asking for it to be thrown back in your face.
 
as the cpu module for the Bplan mobo is just as much vapor.

[Alkemyst]

"FireWire:
How long do we have PCI-boards for the Amiga ? And how long are USB-PCI-
cards available ? And why did it take a (2) costum Zorro-cards before
someone actually did write an USB-stack ?"
 
i really dont know what your point is
 
& anyway there was need for other pci drivers first like gfxcards,soundcards,networkcards,tv card,warp3d drivers,ect.

"Paying extra ?
The suggested retail price for the Pegasos is the same as for the
A1-SE, and 100 Euro/$ less than the XE. And that doesn't even include an
OS for the A1s. So yes I also hate paying extra for things I don't need,
and "the name" is definitly one of those.
 
what crap if the price of the pegasos with firewire is 500 euros but if they had not put the firewire onboard the that board could of been sold for less lets say 460 euros.
 
but you knew that & you just had to twist the comment by turnning it into the price of the Aone with the price of the pegasos when that was not the point of the comment at all, it was just no matter what the price is leaving the firewire off would bring the price down for the pegasos, so the price of the aone has noting to with the price of the of the pegasos with out firewire

[Alkemyst]

@Kronos.
 
i disagree.
 
the amiga never had gfx cards as standard or CDromdives,zipdrives,DVDdrives,gfxcards,soundcards., when  they first hit the market.
 
just because there is no FW as standard it does not meen it cant be added & most ppl know that it can be & thus could make SW that uses FW as an option.
 
if the demand for such SW is there then the driver would most likey come with that SW for a select range of cards.
 
the amiga had no midi as standard but the demand for midi was high thus  SW was still made with midi in mind like OSS & Bars&Pipes Pro & many others.
 
but the amiga lost out to the atari on that front & no wonder was ppl where telling CBM give us MIDI as standard when they where working on the AGA chipset.
 
so it can work both ways if a feature is included & has a high demand then all good & well & your onto a winner but if its not then its mostly wasted.
 
sorry but i dont see the high demand for FW from ppl wanting the Aone or XE.
 
& your forgetting the amiga way of doing things.
 
if it does not come as standard & there is a worth while demand from amiga ppl for it then it will be made as an addon.
 
just look at what my A1200 has on it now.
 
& most of what on my amiga was never ment to be in the first place but the demand made it so.
 
but now its much easyer than before no more HW hacks. just a driver & thats all as ppl can just go out & bye the card they need.
 
USB took so long as there was little bemand for a long time.

& at first its better to provide the most commonly wanted ports as a priority & then have the least used as addon cards & PCI is used more.
 
you make it sound like most amiga ppl want to do realtime Video work as a priority & then yes FW built in would be better, but if the need was clearly there then some one would jump at the chance to provide a FW card driver & realtime video SW.

[Alkemyst]

@Kronos
"See it the other way:"
 
i was not talking about how i see it i just said what has happened in the way thing have worked in the past when it comes to amiga.
 
& you try to make out that it could never work that way, but it did.

"BPlan had been cooperating with epic and Titan even before they
had finished the mATX-design (remember the dual-ZIF-version), and
at one point Titan may have said "we think there is a market for a real-
time video editor, and we want to write one". What was bPlan's
reaction ? Something like " cost next to nothing as it is allready in
the southbridge". Sure it would/could have happen as an PCI-addon,
but that would have taken more time, and MotionStudio would have
been more expensive for the costumer since they would have needed a FW-
card for it. Everyone who buys a board and than thinks about video, will
only need to buy the SW to get thinks going."
 
i agree with that, but it does not mean if it aint done that way from the start that it could not be done later.

& just cos Bplan think there is such importance for video work it does not mean that everyone else should
 
& anyway if Video work is a big issue then im sure them ppl would be doing on the MaC already.

& also you asume that that ppl still doing video work on there old amigas dont care about the amiga lable, say your wrong as if they really wanted to upgrade there settup to do better video work then

they could of gotten them self a by now Mac thats if all that matters was the features & not the lable then why havent they got then selfs a mac & made life easyer.
 
MOS is not amigaOS BPlan mobo is not amiga either. it just a another ppc computer with FW.
 
cos as soon as the SW is made MOS native it nolonger amigaOS SW, ITS MOS SW.
 
soory but you just seem to be some that thinks what he sees as good for him would be good for every one else
 
& i fedup with the same crap when i see MOS ppl saying get a pegasos to ppl wanting an Aone cos the pegasos got a FW port.
 
ppl know by now that the Aone has no FW aas standard so there is no need to keep ramming it down our necks.
 
if some ppl who would like FW & like to do video work but are not willing to give up the amiga name & OS to do so then a solution will be made im sure.
 
if not then they get a pegasos end of story.
 
the amiga was not made with the video toaster in mind but demand groow for it then it was made.
 
so the wait & see approche does can work as well.

 putting features in first & hopeing can back fire.
 
atari did not put midi in cos atari users asked for it so they got lucky & it took off.
 
ppl used Macs mostly for midi work before.
 
its alway more risky putting features in & hopeing ppl will want it than
 
than putting in features that ppl aksed for.
 
come to think of it why aint the Bplan & Aone come with Midi bulit in. im into music so screw the FW & replace it with a midi port.

[Alkemyst]

Seehund you still stuck on that grove.

what make the Aone an amiga is that it can run amigaOs4 Native & its has the Rom to do so like every
other amiga.