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Re: Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for only $39.99!
« on: October 22, 2012, 11:39:31 AM »
Windows-promotions on AO? What has the World come to? :(

As for the topic, Windows 8 is a desperate attempt to get Windows back into the game for touch-sensitive devices, as well as a badly-disguised stab at publishers - anyone wanting to make apps for the new UI needs to go though MS first.
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Re: Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for only $39.99!
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 02:52:50 PM »
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Because you used the word "desperate" means you are desperate to make Microsoft look bad. What you say is true though, it is an attempt to get back into the game, but adding an emotional word just makes you sound a little bitter.
 
LOB applications for enterprises are supported in some circumstances.
 
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/uk_faculty_connection/archive/2012/04/03/installing-enterprise-metro-apps-without-using-microsoft-store.aspx
 
You may even be able to work round some of the imposed limitations.
 
http://www.ghacks.net/2012/08/17/how-to-add-non-store-apps-to-windows-8/
 
For delivering apps to consumer tablets then having everything go through the app store is actually a good idea. It's worked well for Apple, the alternative is Android and it's not really worked out too well there.


My own thoughts are obviously subjective - this isn't a news site, and I state my own opinion on matters. That being said, I'm not deliberately trying to get Microsoft look bad.

Microsoft were actually on the touch-wagon quite early - there was a Tablet-PC edition of Windows XP, and there's been a few computers using it.

However, the interface hasn't been specifically designed for it, and the market for tablets didn't explode until a few years ago - while Windows 7 has some support for touch sensitive computers, it's basically the same as the Tablet-PC version of XP from about ten years ago.

On the other hand I'd be very surprised if Windows 8 didn't have touch interface as a main priority.

When it comes to the Microsoft store, it's not the idea of a store that I don't like - on the contrary, I've been using it for a some time to buy Xbox games and have no complaints.

Sideloading Metro apps doesn't remove the need for them to be digitally signed. Last time i checked, those certificates can cost quite a bit, so getting around the store is not a non-trivial issue.

Microsoft could have added a setting, similar to the one in Android, so that users can opt to install this kind of software at their own risk.
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Re: Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for only $39.99!
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2012, 03:20:08 PM »
So basically, I need to set up my own CA, sign the application myself, and then install it using a non-standard method? Yeah, that'll improve conditions for open source programmers and the like. :D

I see your point with security - it's just that I don't agree that it should be taken that far. Ah well, that's a discussion for another thread. :)
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Re: Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for only $39.99!
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2012, 02:51:05 PM »
Metro isn't that bad - it's perfectly usable with a touch interface, and isn't that bad when using a mouse.

The store isn't a bad thing either, nor is software signing.

Not allowing people to install apps at their own peril, if that's what they want, is bad.

And yes, tablets are media consumption devices. Computers will still be used, although consumers will probably move a large part of their surfing, video watching, Farmvilling and Facebooking to more portable formats. After all, that's why netbooks were all the rage a few years back.
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Re: Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for only $39.99!
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2012, 05:22:58 PM »
As far as I can tell, Windows 8 is rock solid.

The Metro interface isn't that nice when you use a mouse, but it works on the Xbox, so I guess they're aiming for consistency or something.

I reverted to Windows 7 again - there's not really any point in upgrading if you already have Windows 7 and don't have a touch screen.
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Re: Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for only $39.99!
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2012, 06:25:38 PM »
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The speed optimisations and the new task manager have me hooked & I don't have a touch screen.


I didn't notice any speed differences apart from Windows 8 booting a bit faster. The Task manager is sexy indeed, but it's not enough to make me pay for an upgrade.
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