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Re: No more MorphOS for Pegasos? :-(
« on: November 15, 2004, 01:29:46 PM »
On Morphzone it looks like BB&RV are talking about MorphOS development continuing without the complaining developers... to the point that they posted "Where does MorphOS go without MUI? That is the big question."

Surely they should be talking to the devs about their position rather than publically talking about ditching them from the team? I'm a bit confused with that one...

Where does MorphOS go without the GUI toolkit its almost exclusively built upon? Well, thats quite a stumbling block.

*sigh* This is sad news for the whole Amiga and clone world... I hope something positive happens for all MOS users.
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Re: No more MorphOS for Pegasos? :-(
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2004, 01:43:53 PM »
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In a word... Zune...


Its still a big slap in the face for Stefan Stuntz... "Oh, wel can't pay you, but rather than try and come to some sort of compromise, we'll use this open source clone".

Don't forget also that MorphOS MUI has more features than the 3.9 CVS version of MUI, which itself is a lot more complete than Zune (AFAIK), so they'd either have to bring Zune up to MOS MUI level, or take out features that require the latest MUI classes.

Either way, it pushes a "1.5 without the disgruntled developers work" release further back.
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Re: No more MorphOS for Pegasos? :-(
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2004, 01:51:56 PM »
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See, there's the modus operandi of Bill Buck.  It's not Bill's fault because they hired people then refused to pay them for well over a year, it's the employee's fault for not working for free.


Certainly the only way I can interpret "What happens next will depend on the core MorphOS team and whether we want to work with certain people any more." is basically "We only want to work with people who don't complain when they don't get paid"... :-?

Edit: And again... "Ralph and Frank are still very much a part of Genesi/bplan. MorphOS development will continue. Some of the key players and components may change." If I was a MOS user, BB&RV's posts would be making me MORE worried, not less...
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Re: No more MorphOS for Pegasos? :-(
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2004, 02:44:38 PM »
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so even if there was never another Official Morphos release would it really matter?


Well, I think it would. Otherwise I wouldn't have bought OS3.5, OS3.9 and then an A1 and OS4, I'd have stuck with OS3.1.

In the purely hypothetical future where MorphOS really did indefinately stall at 1.4, and AROS and OS4.x continue to improve and provide more and better functionality over time while keeping the Amiga "feel", would you still be so happy to be using 1.4?

Anyway, from the latest posts on Morphzone it seems that Bill is definately playing the victim here, claiming that MOS will continue without the work of the disgruntled developers, because he and Genesi will not be "held hostage". Yeah, maybe those developers should apologise for not working for free... ?!
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Re: No more MorphOS for Pegasos? :-(
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2004, 04:42:44 PM »
@KennyR

Giving David, Stefan, Treveur and Oliver the benefit of the doubt, I would imagine that this is a last resort to get their money after direct negotiation failed. I certainly doubt they would have suddenly come to this decision after a year of "just putting up with it".

While I agree it is unfortunate that the users are suffering through no fault of their own, if the developers concerned have tried all the other reasonable options available to them, then this move is understandable, even if it sucks.
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