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Re: When The Moors ruled in Europe
« on: August 18, 2007, 04:14:12 PM »
Moors ruled europe? And I always thought they only reached out to spain and some countries north of mediterranian... :crazy:

So the muslims went to spain to "save" the people there? Lol, sure thing...

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From the 9th through the 12th centuries, the Islamic world was the world leader in scientific knowledge. So why is science in Muslim lands still stuck in the past?

Because they've been too busy looking for the 100th name of Allah??


No thanks to islam, I suppose. In todays Iraq/Iran there have been cultures way older and more advanced than in any other places on earth.

They found what's believed to be on of the oldest cities in the world in Iran quite recently. Seems like it was older bigger and more advanced than anyone would thought was possible. Maybe their science development halted thanks to islam?
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Re: When The Moors ruled in Europe
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2007, 05:11:49 PM »
geez, we all know old habits don't die easily, right? There are still things that are done in the name of islam that orignates from pre-islamic religions/traditions, even if islam condems it, such as killing ones misbehaving wife or daughter in order to save the hounor of the family.
It could have been the same about the matter of science, for what I believe. Islam does not much to encourage science after all....

Another example are Jinns, that are orginally mythical creatures from pre-islamic arabia...

Is it so hard to understand what I mean huh?
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Re: When The Moors ruled in Europe
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2007, 08:03:35 PM »
I only watched some of it, it's too long to watch on a monitor. Does it matter? Islam might have brought universities to europe, but today it has nothing more to contribute in the further evolution of modern soceity...
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Re: When The Moors ruled in Europe
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2007, 08:39:47 PM »
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I think SufiDhikr is trying to point out that you misread the title. It's "When the Moors ruled in Europe", not "When the Moors ruled Europe".


Ouchies, my bad...

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Pity they didn't finish what they started. We could have had your "modern society" half a millenium sooner.


Maybe, mabye not... perhaps even earlier, considering that the anicient greeks could have built machines, but didn't because they had slaves to do all the labour. The old chinese could perhaps have colonized europe if they suddenly hadn't stopped after making just a handful of colonies in southeast-asia... who knows?

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True, and unlike Christendom at that time, Islam embraced the scientific knowledge of these cultures (and others) with gusto. What people tend to overlook is both how they advanced that knowledge further and how they made it available to the common masses


But what happened? Look at these countries today, which once held such great cultures... isn't it often because of that in countries ruled by islamic laws, freedom of speech and criticism is heavily reduced, thus halting development and creativity...
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