5ghz+

[bjjones37]

Personally, I would like to see a microprocessor that ran cool enough not to need a cooling fan at all - or liquid nitrogen - even if I did have to give up a few clock cycles. Properly optimized operating system code would more than make up for a little loss in speed for many purposes.  Even with three cooling fans my P3 still overheats sometimes and I run it at it's rated speed.

[bjjones37]

patrik wrote:
@bjjones37:

In what way does it overheat? The P3 cpu is not a very hot running cpu so if it is the cpu that overheats, something must be very wrong - like for example bad thermal transfer between the heatsink and cpu or something similar. In that case remove the old thermal paste and reapply new.


/Patrik

It used some kind of thermal tape that melted when it ran to bond the two together.  Is this inferior to thermal paste?  Should I scrape it off and replace it?  

That aside, I still would rather have processors run cooler even at the sacrifice of some speed.  I have heard that Motorola processors usually run cooler that Intel processors at comparable performance (not necessarily clock speed).  Is this true?

[bjjones37]

adz wrote:


Yes, that would be a good idea. However, the only x86 based solution that comes close to what you desire is the VIA Eden, plus they come in miniITX, just a thought.

Hey that VIA Eden chip does look great! If it has full MS software compatibility, that might just be my next computer. My P3-1GHz runs everything I have at a decent speed and that chip might even have better performance with it's SSE support.

[bjjones37]

blobrana wrote:
Hum,
AMD has full MS software compatibility as well, i thought...

(As well as coppermine... , compatible with your mobo)

Best used with artic thermal paste....(apply not too thick , less than a mm)

What looked so good about the VIA Eden chip was that it ran so cool.  It claims to not even need a cooling fan. I believe that the AMD processors, while high performance, run just as hot as the Intel chips.

It gets really hot in Texas. I remember hearing about the heat wave they had in France a couple of years ago and how thousands (IIRC) actually died.  We have that kind of weather in Texas every year and I did not even have AC when I was a kid.  I keep the AC at 81 degrees during the summer but sometimes my computer room heats up to 90 or so just because of the computer (or two) being on. I have had to resort to leaving the side panel off of the case to cut down on the everheating.  It does help, and of course it is a lot better now during the winter.

[bjjones37]

bloodline wrote:

bjjones37 wrote:

adz wrote:


Yes, that would be a good idea. However, the only x86 based solution that comes close to what you desire is the VIA Eden, plus they come in miniITX, just a thought.

Hey that VIA Eden chip does look great! If it has full MS software compatibility, that might just be my next computer. My P3-1GHz runs everything I have at a decent speed and that chip might even have better performance with it's SSE support.

Bear in mind that my 2Ghz Athlon64 3200+ runs at 26 degrees C... that a damn slight cooler than any 68k I've enver seen.

Is that without a cooling fan?

Neither my ST nor my Amiga seem to get all that hot, but then we are talking MHz, not GHz.

[bjjones37]

patrik wrote:
@bjjones37:


May I ask what temperature you have in the computer room and what the cpu and case temperature of your computer is?


/Patrik

I will have to check on that when I get home.  I have a temp monitor that pops up to let me know when I overheat so I do not always look at the actual temperature.  Funny thing is that sometimes it just spikes.  Even when it is 65 degrees in the room - but that is rare.  As I said earlier, during the summer it can get up to 90 in my computer room just because the computers are on when it is about 81 in the rest of the house.