Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86

[Louis Dias]

So far, Acube has developed the hardware and they've just supplied the OS, so no loss there. OS development is not an easy job, but it doesn't require a factory anywhere.

From the interviews with the guy in charge of Hyperion, it seems that the X1000 is very much a vanity project, that he is hoping to break even on.

I can understand the vanity aspect.  I stuck with a V6 in my Fiero for years squeezing the most power out of it despite readily available and cheap V8 swaps.

[Louis Dias]

I have a lot more respect for that point of view.

If you are really passionate about it and not just trying to monopolize the market into a corner, that's great.

I just wish Aros had the apparent control of the Amiga market that Hyperion seems to have.  That project fits my views of the future much better.

AROS has not been marketed outside this community and only zealots fail to accept it.
AROS has already surpassed the other OS's in the 3D API dept...  It could be a great platform for PC gaming without the need to pay MS any money for things such as online play...however the big publishers are falling for things like not having to host their own multi-player servers and (LIVE) messaging services.

Gaming may be where/how AROS pulls ahead of OS4 and MOS and is finally accepted by a wider audience.

[Louis Dias]

@ HenryCase

If you want to grow the user-base, then you have to bring the price down to a level a majority of (potential) users are willing to pay. Just because the Sam is the lower end of the price range does not mean it's the price that a majority will pay for. Bring cost of ownership down to about 300$ and I'm in -- but I suspect I'm on the lowest end. This will grow the user-base considerably. A price range of 800$ to 2000$ will not do it.

While the price level of the X1000 might be out of AEon's control, choice of hardware is not. I'm in the x86 camp and computers can be found that would bring the price down below 800$. I've also argued that "if it must be PPC, then xBox, Wii or PS3." The choice of this hardware + OS would also bring the cost down to a more reasonable range and have a better chance of growing the base.

Cold hard fact: the Amiga, despite it's superiority way back when, is a _failed_ computer. Trying to reintroduce such a machine at "caviar" prices when it has "little nutritional value" is just foolish. If you've failed in your career and are restarting it, you don't begin it again by selling yourself at the highest wage possible.

People keep forgetting that this is an enthusiast's market.

I am a Fiero enthusiast.  It is widely considered a failed car yes also did many things that were ahead of it's time in the automobile world.  I continue to update and improve upon it at a premium price.  I also value the car higher than my corvette that is 10+years newer...and enjoy driving it more than my corvette.

This is the Amiga market.  If you want an econo-box/mobile look elsewhere.

[Louis Dias]

@ Lou Dias

Ironically, you are addressing (possibly) the only other Amiga/Fiero enthusiast here, Lou. I'm the proud and original owner of a 1988 4cyl standard Fiero. I listed those stats because, as fond as I am of the Fiero, I was unwilling to pay for anything better than that. The more expensive models didn't get me down the road any better than my humble model and the gas mileage was by far better.

holy poop!  Is the world ending?
I got a G6-6speed in one and a 4.9 caddy v8 with a 5 speed in another...

uh OT