Ebay Bid Shilling??

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Check this out, Bid Shill? Is it or is it not bid shilling?

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If you take note you may notice that the winning bidder registered the same day the auction posted and both seller and high bidder are from Greece. Hmmmmmmm.

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seer wrote:
Not sure what you mean, but the first bid was 600 dollar from a biddr in the US.

The last high bidder was pushed to max by the zero bidder and then out-bid by zero bidder. This is a suspected shill to increase the sale price. Suspicious because the zero bidder account was created the SAME day the auction was posted and BOTH are from Greece. There is a lot of money in this system and since the bids are slow this seller is sweating the bottom line. So having a "buddy" to help pump up the sale price seems to be in order here. Another Amiga Ebay phenomenon.

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FastRobPlus wrote:
Let him win it and pay the ebay fees on a $650 sale.

Good one but he can always claim a non-paying bidder complaint and get relief from ANY fees and get a free re-listing. So really, this guy has nothing to fear, unless he gets reported as stated above, but does ebay REALLY hunt down offenders as well as they claim? Not quite!

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dnelsonfl wrote:
From experience, you're right -- Ebay does not agressively pursue offenders. The reply when I've reported similar ones in the past was always "insufficient proof" to make a case. On the other hand, if somebody is crazy enough to outbid the shill bidders and pay that much... What can you do.

YOU GET REPLIES?? :-o

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ajlwalker wrote:
I hear what you guys are saying but on the one and only occasion I reported a Shill Bidder (sorry I've never called it bid shilling!) ebay did act.

The vendor was pretty stupid in that he shill bid on many of his items simultaneously.  He did have several IDs.  I reported three in total.

Ebay DID reply to me and finalised their correspondence by saying that they could not comment on their action taken but suggested I search for this member.  On doing this all IDs read "no longer an ebay member".

Now, I doubt they contacted any of the winning bidders who paid over the odds (they were relatively small sums), but they did appear to act if they indeed had enough evidence.

Well it is good to hear that reporting violations is not a total lost cause after all. But the seller in question (who at last report has been reported) is still in "good" standing. Go figure.

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awe4k wrote:
My experience is that Ebay can take a day or two to reply, but they do reply and they do study the case or complaint that you present to them, they do analise if the matter you present is consistent, and they do take actions. I can tell you by my own experience, both as a seller and as a buyer.

I respect very much their service. They are aware that a bad service can lead into customer distrust and subsequent loss of profits, and they protect themselves very well agains this, resulting in good customer protection as well.

Regards.

I must digress; when the offender is a Power Seller. Many Power Sellers on ebay rack up hundreds of negative feedbacks from most buyers with sub-20 feedbacks. Complaints from these buyers fall on deaf ears as long as the Power Seller is raking in dough hand over fist for the corporation.