A4000D & IDE CDROM install

[EzdineG]

If you've got OS 3.9, it's only a matter of setting the jumpers,
installing CacheCDFS and setting the proper id for CD0.  I'm using
a 16X Pioneer DVD Rom in my 4000D with this configuration and it
flies!

Adrian

[EzdineG]

Naah... That won't arrive until next Wednesday at the earliest.
I've got a 4000D with a Cyberstorm MK1 '060, Picasso IV and EB920 Nic
I built myself a while back.  I started with the 4000 board listed on ebay a
few months back with a broken chip ram SIMM retainer (remember that one?)

Anyway, I found a real neat fix for that clip.  It'll never bother me
again  I don't even want to say how much the P-IV and Cyberstorm cost..

I'm still recovering from that one.

Adrian

[EzdineG]

With 3.0/3.1 just drop the cd0 from storage into devs:dosdrivers
and edit that cd0 "CDFileSystem" template to get 'er buzzing.
The scsi.device from the kickstart will recognize the ide CDRom just
fine as device 0 or 1, depending on your jumpering.  Maybe I'm crazy,
but the combination IDE HD/CDROM chained of the motherboard seem a
hell of alot faster than the integrated SCSI on the Cyberstorm.

Adrian

[EzdineG]

Jope: Are you sure about this?

I am 100% sure about this.  It is the way the 4000D I'm using right now is configured, works 100%.

Jope: In my opinion this is not so - you will be able to use a real SCSI CD-ROM in the way you describe, but ATAPI drives might not work properly without IDE-Fix.

IDEFix is not necessary.  The scsi.device driver intended for the 4000D IDE controller works fine with ATAPI CD Roms.  I used it to create an emergency disk to 3.9 from 3.1.  I used it to install 3.9 and every application since.  It has no issues reading any DVD Rom I feed it, either.

[EzdineG]

k-disk wrote:
I never had any trouble with an Atapi-CDrom using the
standard IDE port. I use an 56x CDrom in my A4000D
and it doesn't take much time to spin up. I Don't use
IDEFix either. No problem!

 :-D

Thanks, I knew I couldn't be alone.  

I've a Maxtor 40GB 680L0 and Pioneer DVD rom as master/slave working together in harmony.  System boots to 3.9 BB2 from powerup in about 10 seconds :-D

[EzdineG]

TjLaZer wrote:
@EzdineG

I have never been able to get a ATAPI CD-ROM to work in my Amiga 4000s without 1) IDEFIX or 2) AmigaOS 3.5+  Actually to install AmigaOS 3.5 I had to use IDEFIX!

How did you do it???

Just as I described earlier.  The only oddity was jumpering the CDROM and Maxtor to cooperate.  I eventually found a combination that worked though.  After the OS3.9 install I went back and installed CacheCDFS, gave it the same device ID and removed the previous cd handler.

Adrian

[EzdineG]

TjLaZer wrote:
So you used scsi.device and the CD0: DOS driver and it just worked???  Hmm weird.  The only way I got a IDE CD-ROM to work was atari.device.

Yes.  Are we talking about Amigas?  :-D

[EzdineG]

TheMagicM wrote:
ezdine: well both of your systems are awesome!
I'll give it a shot and let you'all know how it works when the systems get here.

Thanks!  Love those 4000D's I do  8-)

[EzdineG]

TjLaZer wrote:
I tried a .... I have a Amiga 4000 040, Kickstart 3.1.  I had AmigaDOS 3.1 at the time.

As did I.

I had to install the atapi.device and mount the CD0: with that device and it worked perfectly.  I tried AsimCDFS, AmiCDFS and CacheCDFS and unless I used atapi.device it would not work.  Am I the only one that needed it?  I remember being told by everyone on USENET that it would not work with stock scsi.device.

The DVD Rom is a Hitachi GD-5000 (originally thought it was a Pioneer.)  For the record, I don't even possess atapi.device, idefix97, AsimCDFS or AmiCDFS.  I went into the installation treating these devices like their SCSI equivalents in my 3000's.  I used OS 3.1 long enough to create a bootdisk with the 3.9 installer CD.  Perhaps the characteristics of my DVD Rom made it so?

Adrian