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Re: British musicians?
« on: April 17, 2005, 11:42:37 PM »
ALL "pop" music sucks: it doesn't matter where it comes from.
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Re: British musicians?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2005, 09:25:04 PM »
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ALL "pop" music sucks: it doesn't matter where it comes from.


The Beatles made "pop" music and they don't suck. :-D
no no no, that was a different time. that was before the horror of corporate "pop" music.

sure, The Beatles made popular music as opposed to classical or blues or Gilbert and Sullivan light opera. AND SO ON.

and, yes, they were brilliantly talented - the difference between them and this crap that is sold as "pop" music is that john, paul, george and ringo got together when they were kids, wrote their own music, played thier own instuments, sang with their own voices, etc.

and when being interviewed showed their own personalities - their true selves. not some calulated, corporate construct.

what made them a phenomenon is that they were having SUCH a good time, everyone wanted to join in. their joy, talent and passion was infectious.

Unfortunately, when untalented business sharks see something like this, all they see is an opportunity to make money. So they put together "acts" looking for one or more that will generate $$$$$$$$$.

the music is souless and crap.
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Re: British musicians?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2005, 11:50:42 PM »
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The Beatles changed everything by forming their own record company.

sure, AFTER they started APPLE. before that the suits were still in a state of shock that four "mop tops" could make this kind of furor. People JUST don't understand the power of the female sex drive :lol: :lol:

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It would be very tough for a talented band like the Beatles to appear nowadays (yes, there _are_ many talented acts nowadays)
I know. I've seen many of them myself. That's what the Hardcore movement in NY was all about. They gave themselves names that could NEVER possibly be used by suits to make money. They had lyrics that were so bold and in some cases nasty so that they could not be exploited. it was great. the Anti-success bands! I love them!

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Re: British musicians?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2005, 03:39:53 AM »
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Without trying to cause offence to any "Patriots" reading this (although I'm sure I will), it seems to me that the US invents a form/style of music, and then many if not most times, the UK picks it up and does it better.
:lol: oh, stop! this has nothing to do with "Patriots"!

the one great music style that americans invented was Blues. Sure, people like Clapton do it really well. but there is something quite unique about the original guys (Blind Lemon Jefferson, etc).

I do think that one of the reasons why europeans can be very creative with styles invented by others is the fact that europeans get a classical education. and being educated is respected.
When I listened to The Beatles it seemed obvious that there was some classical musical knowledge somewhere in there. (yes, I've heard the stories about how some of these musicans can't "write" in musical notation). that's not what I mean.
They grew up hearing good music - just like I did with my family. mom played the cello in college, performing Gilbert and Sullivan. My grandfather would sing french opera while he made dinner. It gets in your head.

if you have talent, it comes out. somehow.  
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