A post confirming stuff about MorphOS

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there's any number of reasons why people who are owed money by BBRV aren't interested in being public about it.

one is that the minute you say anything you are vilified. and if you happen to have children and a LIFE, that just isn't pleasant.

I know people who have been unpaid (for about a year, now) and really don't want to cause the amiga community any more heartache. So they keep quiet. plus, they are busy looking for work. or working at whatever they can find. remember, kids don't stop eating just because someone doesn't pay you.

I doubt this "one" person didn't want to make a fuss for no reason. I suspect he wanted to prevent anyone else from being hurt or used.

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DonnyEMU wrote:
This is sad and all I can say is the community strikes again shooting itself in the foot.. When are we gonna get over airing dirty laundry.. A deep hearty thanks to the poster who has really put the morphOS end user's investment in the product in danger..

Morphos Statement

all that stuff on that site is spin by the spin-master.

If you believe anything BBRV say, you are being dupped.

Wayne is telling the Truth.

the only "sides" here are right and wrong. moral and immoral. don't abandon your amiga brothers from someone who has never written a line of code.

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Wilse wrote:
@Wayne:

I -- for one -- think it's completely stupid and will never understand why people supporting either "side" have drawn such a wide line between themselves and refuse to accept that both platforms are virtually identical.

Thank you. I was begining to think I was the only one who thought this.

you aren't! I have never been part of that stupid red vs blue war because while that nonsense was going on I was busy having a career.
I was busy working on TV shows and series, etc.
I was busy writing articles for the online part of New Techniques magazine.
I was busy beta testing various versions of ImageFX.
and so on and so on......

I just have no time for that sort of sillyness.

When I had my hands on an amithalon, I thought: "cool! this feels like an amiga on speed!"
when I had my hands on a peg I had basically the same thought.
I've had a chance to see OS4 (beta versions after the pre-release) and it keeps getting better and better. and faster and faster.

I really enjoy my WinUAE (even though it's "struggling" with windows under it).

I just love amiga OS - no matter what the form.

I've found that the people who program for MOS are talented and lovely people. (no, i haven't forgoten AROS. that's next on my list of things to check out).

I've never had an issue with amiga people - even the silly people. they are just easy to ignore when they get too ridiculous.

I just have a problem with people being used and lied to. and that has nothing to do with what OS one uses.

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all colors put together make white.

I prefer to interpret this to mean that if the amiga community stays together and support each other we will remain strong and pure. and will enjoy all the colors we contribute to this "amiga project".

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the expression on the guy's face is just one of pain.

maybe he's surprised.
you notice how some people resist the idea of bringing the amiga community together.
it may seem "painfull" at first.
but, if we embrace our differences we can enjoy them - rather than fight about them.

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hnl_dk wrote:

Coder wrote:
On www.morphos-news.de you can find:

Actually, we are closing Genesi Sarl, but that will happen at the end of the year. We will just operate through Frankfurt and the USA. No more trolling please.

R&B

Coder

If this is true, does it very much sound like... VisCorp... Pretory... Thendic-France... and now Genesi SARL.

Hope this is not just a plan to get rid of the missing payments (in an unmorally way).

all company names have one thing in common: Buck.
see the writing on the wall?

and everything Wayne said is true. I can't reveal names of people I know publically, but privately, I've been telling this same story for the last year.
word to the wise: keep away from immoral people. it's not healthy.

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it's not easy being Green(less).....

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Darrin wrote:

Framiga wrote:

Wayne . . .you know much better than me, the "military prone brain" of BB.

It's obvious that you know nothing of the Military and insulting all who have served to protect ungrateful filth like you doesn't make you look clever.

eh, don't lose focus. Framiga isn't the problem here. anyway, i suspect there is simply a language issue.

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Colin_Camper wrote:
 However if there is no money then

darling, this is NOT simply about money.
It's about people lying and treating human beings like dog poo.

by way of comparison, let me tell you about Frank. He was the best boss/colleague I've ever known in my long career.

When we were working on Children of Dune there was some money problem (I don't recall the details).
Frank came into work one day with a long face and told me there was a problem and the best solution for time being was to give me $100 less a week. he was VERY upset by this.

more disturbed than I was. and do you know WHY I wasn't that disturbed?

Because Frank had come to me like a person and was completely HONEST with me. he treated me with RESPECT. And THAT is why I remained loyal to him. Why I would do any job he asked. and why I gave him 300% every single day.

When you treat people well - no matter who they are - you get back alot more than you give.

Frank was always straight with everyone. and everyone respected him.

I KNOW what it's like to be treated fairly and well and respected.

in this "Genesi" situation, there are a whole hord of people who have NOT been treated well. all anyone wants to do is prevent more damage.
just because I'm not a close friend of Wayne's doesn't mean I'm not completely repulsed by the way he is being treated.
I am, after all, a human being.

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Darth_X wrote:

When we were working on Children of Dune

You worked on Children of Dune? Wow! :-D

yes indeed. and damn proud of it. and I'm proud to have work with a great team of people!

Frank was always straight with everyone. and everyone respected him.

I KNOW what it's like to be treated fairly and well and respected.

in this "Genesi" situation, there are a whole hord of people who have NOT been treated well.

Perhaps the best remedy for this situation for for everyone involved to start treating the other involved with respect!  :-)

To get respect from me, you have to earn it. Frank (and others) earned it.

The Great Isaac Asimov said:
"And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning."

I've worked Very hard to get where I am and people like Frank respected that from day one. and that is one of the reasons he RE-hired and RE-hired and RE-hired me for jobs - including the ones that could potentially win awards.  

We mutually respected each other. and that makes for a wonderful working environment. And that's when real creativity can flourish. I knew I could depend on Frank to do his job and he could depend on me. It was unspoken.

How often has a person said to you: "When I get this next big job, YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON I'M CALLING"

There is no better compliment. Well, Frank said that often.