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Re: Amiga, Inc: Close That Open Hardware!
« on: January 11, 2003, 12:36:05 PM »
I wonder, what makes people think that AmigaOS *would* run on POP-Hardware? The only POP-Board that *I* have has a CPC700 chipset on it, and that is something that AmigaOS 4 doesn't use.

So why should this run on "any POP hardware", as people always claim, and "only the dongle prohibits it running on anything else". It just shows that people bringing up that claim should check their facts.

For the final time, AMIGAOS 4 DOES NOT RUN ON POP HARDWARE WITHOUT ADAPTING TO THIS HARDWARE. Sorry for shouting, but apparently some people have a very hard time understanding this.
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Re: Amiga, Inc: Close That Open Hardware!
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2003, 01:13:38 PM »
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There are no more Amigas, I don't want a new Amiga (unless it's cheaper and better than what everyone else on the consumer hardware market can come up with, although this won't/can't happen, but even then I'd like options). I want to buy AmigaOS. Who sells me what hardware is none of the software producers' concern.


Now we are at the heart of the matter, right?

Sorry, but that doesn't work that way. The prerequisite for starting the project was an officially branded Amiga hardware, not the vague hope that sometime somewhere an affordable PowerPC hardware could have been found.

You are right, Hyperion/Eyetech/Amiga cannot be compared to Apple.

For a small company like Amiga or Hyperion, it is *impossible* to support a wide range, so you have to restrict this to a set of hardware where you actually can guarantee support. If something goes wrong, you aren't likely to get support from your hypothetical hardware vendor, because they will say "What's an Omega?". You will turn to Hyperion/AmigaInc. You will expect us to fix your problem. You have paid money, so you won't accept a "sorry we can't help you" or "we told you so".

With officially branded hardware, part of the support (the hardware specific support) can be handled by the hardware manufacturer, while other issues will be handled by AmigaInc/Hyperion.

This can only be achived with a licencing scheme with officially branded hardware. If you think that this will work any other way, you should spend one week in the support department and see for yourself.
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Re: Amiga, Inc: Close That Open Hardware!
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2003, 02:51:55 PM »
What Barbie board? Can you actually buy that anywhere? I didn't see this yet.

On the Pegasos, it would probably be easy to reuse larger parts, but I don't know how much different their southbridge is. A CPC7xx based board would mean additional work, since all of the components are different (with the possible exception of the serial ports - big deal).

But since I've never seen any specs on Barbie, I cannot really comment.
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Re: Amiga, Inc: Close That Open Hardware!
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2003, 05:27:12 PM »
The easiest solution would be for Genesi to licence AmigaOS. I don't see why they shouldn't, seeing how many of their customers want it.

Don't say "money", don't say "dongle". You don't know how much this would cost (if anything at all), and the dongle could be a usb plug.
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Re: Amiga, Inc: Close That Open Hardware!
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2003, 05:29:01 PM »
Where did you get that information about the Barbie? I never saw any mention of it using an Articia.

Care to comment about the support issue?
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