OS 4.0 comes to New York! - Updated: New Address

[Rogue]

I'm sick of seeing this OS4 on tour bollocks, I just wish they'd stop pissing about and release the bloody thing....

Very nice and uninflameable comment. Congratulations.

For your info, the individual showings around the globe have all been organized by dealers and/or user groups. Neither Hyperion nor Amiga had anything to do with it Believe it or not, there *are* people interested, and for those interested people the organizers have done their (excellent) job. If you don't like it, just ignore it.

I am sick of seeing people slander the organizer's work.

I remember when I used to care..... honestly it's a joke.

If you are not interested, why don't you stay away from these news items, then? (No need to answer, that was a rethorical question).

You are free to go or not go visit one of the showings.

[Rogue]

I am surprised its still in the 68k state.

It's not stricly 68k. Some modules are PPC, some 68k. From the top of my head here's a list of all PPC modules

intuition
gadtools
input.device
cia.resource
timer.device
SmartFileSystem
CDFileSystem
icon.library
diskfont.library
ft2.library
layers.library
con-handler
exec
expansion
ram-handler
utilty.library
dos
...

I don't get them all now :-) I might have been easier to name the 68k modules...

[Rogue]

With things moving to PPC, is there a big difference in speed? Show reports have indicated that OS4 is slow. But with more and more PPC modules, is the speed up allready noticable?

Sure there is a big difference. Right now most of the rendering code used to be 68k (especially intuition and reaction). Intuition is PPC now, reaction is following.

Aren't you afraid that ppl will compare MorphOS on Pegasos and OS4 on cyberstorm (which is not a fair comparison). Or are you confident that, once completed, it will be fast even on CPPC?

Well, it takes a huge amount of ignorance to compare a CSPPC against any modern machine and saying "hey, the Pegasos is faster than that". I mean, there isn't only a differently clocked chip at work, the whole architecture has changed dramatically.

Not that I wouldn't expect these comparisons  :-D

[Rogue]

IIRC wasn't intuition 68k at Amiwest (that's why the windows wern't moving as fast as they could) - I'd have imagined that PPC intuition would make GUI far more responsive

Yes, the Amiwest version was already a week or two old. We never show the latest stuff because we don't like surprises :-) So the Intuition at Amiwest was 68k, as was diskfont and ft2 (both of them make a big difference in rendering speed and font loading).

And is DOS newly converted?

Yes, DOS is only a few days old on the PPC. I never dreamed it was possible, with all the BCPL legacy stuff to be thrown out. Colin did a tremendous job at cleaning the code out and still staying compatible to old startup codes... Porting to PPC, after he finalized the code, was just a matter of hours. Cheers to Colin and Jörg for this.

BTW I see that the news has been edited and the JIT isn't mentioned now - I guess that means it isn't running

Well, like I said we never really show all the latest stuff, only if we know it runs stable. This is the reason why most of the time OS 4 didn't crash on these shows. (and yes, on the europe shows, people could actually play with it)

In the case of the JIT, it's got a few minor issues to be taken care of. Petunia is finished, it's just a matter of the integration into OS 4.