When are AOS4 released?

[Rogue]

If you holding on for the BlizzardPPC version i fear you will be let down! i DOUBT you will see a version for classic Amigas anytime soon if ever (especialy the BlizzardPPC).

Looking at your signature, I wonder what makes you think you can give a qualified comment on the subject.

The classic versions of AmigaOS 4 are at about the same level as the AmigaOne version, and release wil most likely be simultaneous with the AmigaOne version.

Plainly, I've seen this "OS 4 will never come out" in various shades of blue (or grey or red or green, no pun intended) way too often to think it is funny.

[Rogue]

I thought it was the same version of AOS4?

It is. The kernel is slightly different, and some of the low-level device drivers, but that's about it. Things like e.g. Intuition, DOS, Graphics, are identical.

Any change in the AmigaOne kernel is also done in the classic kernel.

[Rogue]

you can only get OS4 by buying an uA1.
it's not sold separately.

Almost :-) The classic version will be sold separately.

[Rogue]

will it require a hardware dongle or special ROM chips to run on classic Amigas? Will Kickstart 3.0 suffice?

No, nothing like that is planned, or at least nothing that I know of. Kickstart 3.0 will be sufficient, as well as a PPC card (obviously ;-))

It'll also, hopefully, spearhead the release (or re-release) of PPC accelerators for classic Amigas.

At least one new accelerator has been announced already to run with OS 4, the one by ACK.

[Rogue]

My guess mon the ack-boards (and yes it's only a guess, but I do have a tendency to be right on spot with these):

Yeah, we all know your prophetic talent, and your general subscription to Truth and Knowledge.

[Rogue]

I too do not expect to ever see OS4 for my blizzard PPC... Won't happen, not in a billion years*

Yeah, lemme guess, all those beta testers that actually have it are lying, right?

[Rogue]

Well, you must admit though, that Kronos depicted an awfully realistic scenario, which would explain the lack of more concrete details while stopping short of labelling ACK a liar

Problem is, I know ACK personally and I know better than to call him a liar. Matter of fact is that ACK told me about this  hardware a few months ago already, and if he says so I am ready to believe him. He also has access to the OS 4 source code. Not that I have ever seen it, but I live in Germany and he's from Canada, a bit far for a weekend trip.

Personally, I always find it amazing that certain people are eager to comment announcements from one side but don't comment on things like the Pegasos III announcement by BBRV from 2003 which are so obviously unrealistic.

[Rogue]

Did I ever say that ACK would be lying ?

Your posting seems to imply that.

I didn't comment on the thread you linked to for a simple reason, the info on the "Peg3" where just as thin as they were on the Peg2 a year earlier, which contrary to many doubts turned out to be real....

Then, why comment on this one?

[Rogue]

Yes, of course it is very professional of you as a representative of Hyperion, to slam a bitter rival on a totally unneccesary level?

I don't represent Hyperion. The fact that I work for them doesn't mean I loose my freedom of speech. I thought that this comparison was quite adequate because the Peg3 announcement turned out to be a whee bit optimistic.

I didn't "slam a rival". They managed to do that by themselves. I'd bet that even BBRV would agree on that. I didn't call them names or anything, I just pointed out a fact. I have of course the advantage of doing this in retrospect, and of course things look more obviously wrong when you know they are wrong.

You point was?

[Rogue]

MMU tables, 32bit gfx, 16bit sound, JIT buffers... 50MB has disappeared faster than you can say "cat"

Not to mention wallpapers of 1280x1024, disk cache, bitmap cache for PNG icons, etc. If you then force windows to smart refresh, that will also eat up a lot of memory (I tend to keep this off by default).

@Kronos:

Also note that PPC code maybe twice as big, the data your are handling is still the same size, and even the most advanced Amiga-apps will stay quite a way from having 20MB or so in exe-files

Run a single copy of gcc and weep :-)