Gary Hare , KMOS and OS4 ????

[Madgun68]

This whole thing smells like a fish that's been out of water for a week.

If this is true, then Amiga Inc. have been intentionally misleading the community for (close to) an entire year. Boy, and I thought the "Ask Fleecy" gibbersh was nonsense before.. Puts everything in a whole different light now.

Quite frankly, this appears to be a shell-game. If the rights to AOS were purchased almost a year ago, how is it that Amiga Inc suddenly acquire money right now? Someone sell their gold dental fillings or something. I also find it hilarious that, in the court documents, it says that KMOS owns the rights to source including 3.9 when Amiga Inc didn't even have the source to give to Hyperion.

What I can't fathom is why. Or who for that matter. As cool as I think AOS is, it just isn't worth that much. Any sales past units in the 1000s is more in line with pipe dreams.

I've seen comments elsewhere that claim that this is all damning evidence for Bill Buck. Frankly, I don't see it. First of all, if the item in question regarding Fleecy (don't remember hearing about it) is true, they've got no proof that Bill Buck knew it was a forgery, even if he did post on (was it moobunny or ann?)

I also like how all of the depositions say that AmigaDE is a seperate entity from AOS4. Not one claim that it (AOS4) was planned to be forged from AmigaDE.

The only thing stopping this saga from being a great movie is one thing.. Nobody's been killed yet.

[Madgun68]

Anyway, for him to have seen the e-mail, he would have read the thread with all the "this is probably a hoax" messages.

And he didn't exactly contact Fleecy to get confirmation that it was him that posted it either.

So he knewingly, and willingly, submitted something he didn't know the authenticity of, as evidence. Most likely he knew it was forged. Of course, he wasn't betting on Amiga Inc. suddenly being able to disprove this. Looks like Amiga Inc. got a good poker hand at last!

So what if people believed it was a hoax. People frothed at the mouth and called Wayne many things when he predicted that AOS4 wouldn't be released in 2003. People can be wrong. It proves nothing. And would it really have mattered if Bill Buck contacted Amiga Inc for clarification on the letter, when both parties were hostile towards one another?

In my opinion, it the letter doesn't really have much impact for either side anyway. It doesn't do much for bPlan other than say that they (A Inc) were going to lock bPlan to an older product. Amiga Inc's claim that 100s of people thought it was a hoax is false because there were only a 100 posts, a good number of them from repeat posters.

Which didn't happen. So it is irrelevant.

Personally, I don't see a big tie in here that'll allow what Mr. Buck wants, but how AmigaDE and AmigaOS were presented at the time of the license is much more important than how things turned out. Court cases revolve around past events, not current ones.

[Madgun68]

@MarkTime

It certainly does get interesting though. I'm really interested to find out if the sale of AOS ip really happened as they claim. If the information they submitted is false, it could be just the evidence needed to open up the flood gates and give Bill Buck exactly what he wants.

Honestly, if television producers ever wanted to target a soap opera at the geek community, "As the Amiga turns" has more than enough to satisfy all.  :lol:

[Madgun68]

While we are all tossing around conspiracy theories, would this one hold any water?

Yeah, it's possible. Then again, same problem.. If the court found out, it'd likely give the claims by Bill Buck more merit, which would only hurt them in the long run.