Pegasos running native OS4 apps?

[Madgun68]

neither is Morphos.

Huh? Are you replying to someone or just mumbling to yourself?

[Madgun68]

I see both going their own separate ways after a time. Like after both have established commercially released consumer products.

I used to think that way too, but I see it now more like two roads running parallel. It looks like they're heading to the same place, but there's no map so no one knows for sure.

If the paths do head off in different directions, I don't think it'll be any time soon. (Years instead of months.) Of course, I think another thing is that much of the in-fighting that was happening earlier is dying down which helps out in the short term.

[Madgun68]

Wow. I thought before that seeing AmigaOS 4 on the Pegasos 2 might be a possibility but after this thread appeared, I consider it highly unlikely.

I doubt at this point Eyetech have sold any boards not slated to run AmigaOS 4. This guarantees that every one that has sold will be running a legit copy of AOS 4.

The moment any Pegasos machine is sold with AOS 4, the piracy door is wide open. Hardware dongles don't work. They didn't work 20 years ago and they don't work now. It's amazing at times what lengths pirates will go to so they don't have to pay for something. You might not like hearing this, but it's a fact.

I doubt any reseller is going to pay for a license for a machine they sell but don't make. They'd have to pay for the license and for the development of whatever dongle would be used. Honestly, what Amiga reseller has money to burn for stuff like this these days?

And if Amiga Inc have any say in who does and does not get a license, forget Genesi ever attaining one.

(All IMO of course.)

[Madgun68]

That's some pirate group if they can modify a ROM... Seriously, how come that program has been up there for months? You'd have thought someone has had it removed, citing DMCA law and what not.

Remember that ROM means READ Only Memory. Just look at the kickstart. You can save that off to disk and even modify it or softkick it. Same deal applies here.. They could modify OS4 to load the rom image from disk and access it from ram.

As far as the DMCA goes.. That's US law. Aminet isn't limited to US servers you know.

I'm sure that any determined cracker can break the copy protection mechanisms present inside any given computer---think of all those nice modchips available for game consoles. The question is, as always: is the way to crack the system difficult and expensive enough as to scare off sufficient amounts of would-be-pirates?

Of course. But see my earlier argument about AOS4/Pegasos (or any other 3rd part PPC board.)

[Madgun68]

@Skyraker

This conversation was pretty civil until you showed up throwing accusations around. I don't give a #hi# what I happen to purchase, I'm still entitled to an opinion and I'm going to express it if I so choose.

Furthermore, these people that are "crying foul" as you put it are important because they are still potential customers. That's important here because Hyperion isn't a charity.

Let's put this another way: IF.. and I state IF.. Hyperion has $100k wrapped up in AOS4 development (and it could be higher, who knows) and they receive $50 in pure profit with each sale of AOS4, they need to sell 2,000 copies before they even break even. That's if they even receive $50 in profit off each sale.

How much they earn off AOS is going to decide whether or not they're willing to stick with it past their current obligations. Are you positive that with the sales from the classic machines and what Eyetech manages to sell they're going to be happy with the results? Can you guarantee them this in writing?

I would think that more potential earnings would be considered a good thing. The only thing we're really discussing here is that, in fairness, the licensing sucks. (Back to the part about opinions.)