Aos 3 -> aos 4

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Some people want the real Amiga so they can run real Amiga software on real Amiga hardware. OS4 doesn't bring any of that to the table.

Still other reasons include not wanting to associate with developers who want the user community to die in a fire (Rigo for example). That sort of thing.

Rigo?  I am not familiar with this example.

My 2 cents,

HyperionOS4.x is a fanatic religion.  You are either a believer, and nothing is going to shake your faith in what ever Hyperion does or says, or you are a disbeliever, and do not wear the Rose Colored glasses that come with every sale of HyperionOS4.x.  It is truly a shame that the faithful did not win the rights to the "Amiga" trademarks, instead of only the AmigaOS4.x, as now they are plagued with the fact that other companies can and will sell new Amiga computers that will not run HyperionOS4.x.

I am not against them surviving, actually I wish they would have done a better job and had succeeded in creating an OS and hardware that I could afford, believe in, enjoy using, and would want to buy.  But with the current management and the decisions already made, and continuing to be made by Hyperion, I have serious doubts about them continuing for much longer.  But, like their predecessors before them, they will hang on to their rights to the name AmigaOS4.x and AmigaOne with a death grip for as long as they can make a dime from the few "faithful" that remain.

Just another sad chapter in the long history of the Amiga.  It just has to be made into a movie some day.  There is too much treachery, incompetence, greed, betrayal, etc., to miss the opportunity for a great story.  If only someone could weave a love story through the middle of it (besides the love of the original OS and hardware), it would be an instant box office success.

What about it Pyromania?  Do you think DiscreetFX could make a great feature length movie from the Amiga history?  An impartial history would be the only way I would want it to be done.  Not some slanted Hyperion propaganda (not accusing you of being inclined to slant it towards a favorable Hyperion conclusion, just stating that I would not want anyone to slant the facts)

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The truth hurts those holding the short stick and some of them just can't stand hearing or reading the truth, so they are reduced to being like HotRod.  Sad little men with a complex that feel compelled to lash out with insults and lies.

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Ooh, I hope we get some benchmarks. I'm gonna laugh myself sick if a $2200 custom box is outperformed by a five-year-old computer you can get for $100-450.
(Or $30-375, if you're willing to take a banged-up case. Says a lot about Apple fans that that's a viable discount approach!)

I would like to see those benchmarks too, but I am pretty sure how the results are going to stack up already.  A X1000 @2.0GHz running AOS4.x will lose against a 5 or 6 year old PowerMac G5 @2.7GHz running MorphOS2.x in every category.  I think it will lose to the G5 even if the clock rates are the same, due to the superiority of the performance of MorphOS2.x over AOS4.x, but we will have to wait and see (and it may be a long wait).

Well, if you are going to pay the "Apple Tax", you want your G4, or G5 system to be "puuuurrrrrty", don't you?  That fancy Apple engineering & design is worth as much as the old PPC systems that are inside, so if you are going to purchase an old Mac, you want it to look good, as the money spent surely is not practical, compared to the performance you could get from any Intel system of the generic variety.

I should know, I just swapped G5 tower cases to put my dual 2.7GHz G5 system into a nicer case that had previously had a dual 2.0GHz G5 system inside of it.  Now I am patiently waiting for the completion of MorphOS2.25 that will support the G5 systems.  Since we are only at version 2.7 now, I am ready for a long wait.

Anyone want to buy a slightly scuffed dual 2.0GHz G5 PowerMac?

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Damn, now you ask! I've got an older model on the way, and I was just going to remove the Brutalist cheese grater from the exterior and put on some nice relaxing plywood anyway...

Then again, I suppose you wouldn't be taking $75 off a $100 price tag for having a dinged case now, would you

No, my case is not really in bad shape.  It just has a few more scuff marks than I liked and since I had a better case with the dual 2.0GHz model, I just decided to swap them.  Both cases are in pretty good shape, with no dents, or real dings in them.  I have seen some really abused G5 cases on eBay and makes me wonder what the hell those owners were doing with their computers to get them in that bad of shape.  Personally, I like the G5 "cheese grater" case looks, but for it's size and weight, there is less room inside than I would like.  The older G4 PowerMac case I have has lots more room inside, is easier to work on since the motherboard flops down when you open it up and does not have the PSU positioned under a potentially dangerous leaking coolant system.  The G4 plastic case is not as stylish as the aluminum G5 case, but it is much better in many other ways.  If the G4, or G5 motherboards were a standard size and layout, I would probably move both systems into a custom case that I liked better.  (I am typing this message from the dual 2.7GHz G5 system that I find preferable to my x86 Quad Core box sitting right next to it).